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#571
I'm not completely clear if the 100% xorg issue is resolved from what is said so far. It sounds like it is, but elsewhere I've seen it mentioned that if you have submenus in your menu it is what causes the xorg bug to remain through reboot and uninstall, so not completely certain. Worth a shot, though, so I'm gonna try it and let you know if I'm still getting the bug.

Furthermore, 412b, you're Russian, yes? I presume you are since you're from Moscow. That said, I was gonna offer adding a Russian translation for the Advance Power Monitor, but I guess that's not necessary?

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Installed the Advanced Power package. Everything works fine, assuming clicking on the battery button is supposed to just close the status menu for the time being (I think you mentioned it'll eventually open a settings menu). I can also verify that, running latest power kernel, installation onto device _while charging_ works fine. (Not sure if anyone else tried that yet, but I know no one in this thread specified if they did.)

Last edited by Mentalist Traceur; 2010-09-26 at 04:54. Reason: App installed; quick update.
 

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#572
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
Furthermore, 412b, you're Russian, yes? I presume you are since you're from Moscow.
Yep, I am

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
That said, I was gonna offer adding a Russian translation for the Advance Power Monitor, but I guess that's not necessary?
There' s no need, indeed. Russian locale is in also in repo.

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
Installed the Advanced Power package. Everything works fine, assuming clicking on the battery button is supposed to just close the status menu for the time being (I think you mentioned it'll eventually open a settings menu). I can also verify that, running latest power kernel, installation onto device _while charging_ works fine. (Not sure if anyone else tried that yet, but I know no one in this thread specified if they did.)
Nice Settings willbe available in next public release, but at the moment I'm not quite sure about concrete ones.
 

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#573
any chance you can set this app up so that it appears in a home screen and not in the menu? I would love to just be able to swipe over to it. thanks
 
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#574
discodave - you want it to be a widget, if I understand you correctly - something that sits on the desktop. You understand that feeling of having an app (this advanced power thing) being slightly different (in status menu) than you would like (on desktop).

So, why then, do you ask for it to be made that way, when I'm sure you can imagine that plenty of people would much rather have it in the status menu. Why not ask "can you make a version of this app that appears on the desktops", or "can you write a widget to go with this", instead of asking him to just switch the app to desktop from menu, everyone else's preferences be damned?

Actually, I think there's other widgets that already do this. Or get the Queen Beecon widget and look up the scripts to configure a BeeCon to do what this thing does but in widget form.

Personally, I like the status menu version. I never use widgets myself, and had this been a widget, I wouldn't have bothered, probably, to get it. *Shrug* I'm odd like that. That said, I think this is something that would ideally be a choice. He has this status menu thing seperate from the actual monitoring program package. So anyone can now write a widget for it, as I understand. So making it possible to have a menu version, widget version, or both, shouldn't be too hard. On the other hand, keep in mind the developer is a person with limited time. It's open source though, so anyone else can pick it up, probably.

Everyone else: since I installed this, I've had Battery Graph reporting a small yet constant processor activity when idle. I can post the picture up here, if people want to see what I'm talking about.

I also installed a few other things that day: BlueMaemo, BT HID Scripts, Kana Test, Kanji Teacher, Gonvert, Liquid War, VGB, VGBA, DeSmuME, RDesktop, and that's it that I recall. (I can check App Manager log.) These are all things I had pre-reflash. No backup, so I was slowly grabbing things back onto my N900. The only ones I can imagine running in background out of those is BT HID Scripts or BlueMaemo. But Advanced Power Manager makes more sense. Because it is running in the background, right? Polling system for battery status and calculating the time left? I haven't noticed a drop in battery life too concretely, but it is looks like there's a pretty constant power draw when otherwise idle now.

Anyone else notice this; does this sound like something your Advanced Power Monitor would do, 412b? Would it cound as a bug?
 
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#575
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
He has this status menu thing seperate from the actual monitoring program package. So anyone can now write a widget for it, as I understand. So making it possible to have a menu version, widget version, or both, shouldn't be too hard. On the other hand, keep in mind the developer is a person with limited time. It's open source though, so anyone else can pick it up, probably.
Heh, anyone could write his own widget using APM since 2008-2009 And for Maemo 5 there is package 'advanced-power-common', which has useful pieces of code, used in number of apps/widgets.
Indeed, time is limited, especially when maintaining 3 widgets and 5(+ number of localizations) packages...

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
Everyone else: since I installed this, I've had Battery Graph reporting a small yet constant processor activity when idle. I can post the picture up here, if people want to see what I'm talking about.
Better watch for load with htop and powertop, those tools give more information about stuff going on.

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
But Advanced Power Manager makes more sense. Because it is running in the background, right? Polling system for battery status and calculating the time left? I haven't noticed a drop in battery life too concretely, but it is looks like there's a pretty constant power draw when otherwise idle now.

Anyone else notice this; does this sound like something your Advanced Power Monitor would do, 412b? Would it cound as a bug?
Indeed, APM runs in background, but it uses D-Bus, so it's async. Modules, which are polling data are not included in Maemo 5 version, but even if it would've done CPU load on OS2008 never exceeded unacceptable CPU usage with all polling modules on, normally it's less than 3,2%. And it's on quite slow n810. Speaking about Maemo 5 version: CPU usage is minimal and async, most of the time APM just sits in background sleeping. Python is not as fast as C is and takes more RAM, but still acceptable for everyday use.
 

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#576
Alright, thank you.

In other news, since a reboot earlier today (which I was totally not expecting because I keep forgetting BT HID Scripts forces reboot after every update... ugh, I need to remember that), battery graph has stopped showing the processor activity. So I'm guessing it was something either linked to apt-get doing some background work post-install, or something else in the bowels of the OS I know nothing of.

Anyway, I don't have HTop simply because I'm not sure if it actually provides anything I, with my level of knowledge (IE, limited) could benefit from. Ultimately, doesn't just "top" give you the same information?

As for PowerTop, I have it, and have used it, but i have yet to really understand much of anything it tells me enough to figure out what's what. At best I understand how much time the CPU is spending in what state. But even then, vaguely, and in a sense I don't think power-top can really tell me what the N900 is doing while it is idle for long periods of time, simply because for me to be running it it has to be partially active already, no? I suppose I can open X-Term, enter "powertop", push the lock switch, and sit there for a minute, then open it up and look at the feedback... *Shrug* Of course, if I wanted to get fancy I would find a way to make it run every X amounts of time, and then write the output somewhere. Let it do so at night... But whatever.

The random processor thing stopped, so for the time being, I'm good either way.
 
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#577
Installed advanced power and it shows a crossed battery icon and "starting apmd" in the status menu even after a reboot.
Running this command
python /opt/maemo/usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor/apmdaemon.py
the modules seem to load correctly, the battery icon becomes normal and status plugin also starts to work.
However upon closing the terminal it again stops working,How do I fix this?
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#578
When the phone first boots and before the charger disconnected message pops up the battery status item shows as almost solid white.

Where can I find this battery icon as it's not in usr/share/themes/~theme name~/images.

I really like it and want to make a full set around the same style.

Thanks

Last edited by James_Littler; 2010-10-05 at 18:22.
 
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#579
I'm pretty sure I've seen it in the themes folders somewhere... Since some themes bring in custom battery icons... I'll look into it, and get back to you. (I'll edit this post when I find them)

Alright, it's not in the theme: But it's explained here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Status_Icons

Apparently you can put your own battery icons in "/opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/", and they will be used instead of system icons.

Also: if you're interested, I'm probably going to be making myself some battery icons in a similar style as well. (Just felt it was appropriate to get a sense of comradeship about us both liking the almost-white gray battery icon.)

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Originally Posted by techie View Post
Installed advanced power and it shows a crossed battery icon and "starting apmd" in the status menu even after a reboot.
Running this command
python /opt/maemo/usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor/apmdaemon.py
the modules seem to load correctly, the battery icon becomes normal and status plugin also starts to work.
However upon closing the terminal it again stops working,How do I fix this?
What's the output of apmd.log?
And also try just starting job from xterm as root:
Code:
start apmonitord
 
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