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#521
Originally Posted by Raubtier View Post
has anything been fixed in terms of the horrible email client?
You should read back a few pages. Search for Sony123. There are fixes to this and that. But nothing really wow you. Modest is fixed, pulse Audio is fixed, browser loading time is also fixed, many other bugs but have to see the official bug list. It will be out shortly just wait for alittle bit more. The final version won't be the same one as Sony123 and others installed on their device. It purely just a beta version. We might see weeks 40 package if we are lucky
 
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#522
PR1.3 is coming! Soon!

Last edited by maxximuscool; 2010-10-19 at 06:51.
 
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#523
I'm expecting a mid November release for the new firmware. If things work a little quicker i'll be happier. I'm generally happy with the phone anyway.

Can anyone confirm if any improvements to battery consumption will be made? If i'm using the phone a lot i'm lucky to get 4 hours from it before I get the morse code..

And before anyone asks, I have reflashed PR1.2 to the phone using NSU, it made no difference.
 
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#524
Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
No i'm not, but I volunteerily testing it to see which packages are broken and notifying the apps mantainers. So the maintainers can fixed the apps and get it ready for PR1.3 when it rolled out.

Good that you found the file but if you don't bother flashing it to testing it then do not complaint. I and others, put ourselves into the lab rats for your sake.

Isn't that what you wanted to know? I hope it answered your question.
I test a ridiculous amount of software. I have rendered my N900 unusable due to testing software just to submit feedback.

Testing usually involves submitting feedback; something that I have not seen you do. I regularly vote for bugs in Bugzilla.

You merely downloaded and flashed the newest version because it's the newest version. It's for your benefit, no-one else's.
 
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#525
Originally Posted by sony123 View Post
Sorry, I couldn't re-produce it, I will close it as invalid
I'll uploading the video now to youtube
 
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#526
Originally Posted by Reffyyyy View Post
I test a ridiculous amount of software. I have rendered my N900 unusable due to testing software just to submit feedback.

Testing usually involves submitting feedback; something that I have not seen you do. I regularly vote for bugs in Bugzilla.

You merely downloaded and flashed the newest version because it's the newest version. It's for your benefit, no-one else's.
Thanks for your contribution. I hope Nokia is as enthusiastic as many of us about Maemo 5/N900!

Again anyone can google and find the source so it's not like we are bragging about the exclusivity of having new release. It's just that we cannot spread the file.
 
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#527
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
What I don't get is: If you were not content with what the N900 did before any update (I bought mine with the original Maemo 5 version), why did you buy it in the first place?
I bought my N900 because I was under the impression the closest thing out there to a real open-source phone. Not from any misguided GNU-style ideas about "Freedom", but from first-hand experience that the combination of solid hardware (something Nokia is very good at) and open-source software results in excellent products (e.g., Logitech Squeezebox).

I know that the reason for this is that when anyone with the skills can hack on a piece of software and "scratch their itches", the small-but-highly-irritating bugs get quickly fixed (e.g. RSS widget using data all the time, email widget doesn't notice that emails are read, phone UI glitches in PR1.2) and simple features get quickly implemented (e.g. ReplayGain in media player, recurring tasks in calendar, info on lock screen, portrait VKB).

I feel like I've been hit by a bait-and-switch scam with the N900. It was sold as an open-source, Linux phone that doesn't hide it's Linux roots that's capable of doing anything a computer can do. Turns out, none of that is really true. Important parts are closed-source, and even for the open-source bits there's no good way to scratch your itches - there are only monolithic releases, and they're so far between that the feedback loop is just so long that there's almost no hope that a fix committed today will ever actually make it to your phone.

And it's not like the community isn't willing to put in the effort to fix bugs and write features. The Maemo community has added an amazing amount of value to the N900 - from headphoned to fMMS - but a lot of these efforts are stymied by Nokia at every step. A perfect example is Erminig-NG: lorelei has pretty much single-handedly implemented Google Calendar sync (a much-requested feature which has been essentially ignored by Nokia!), but it's useless for most people because Calandar doesn't really support recurring events and it's closed-source so we can't fix it. Or just think about how much better fMMS would be if we could actually fix the whole APN mess.

So a lot of people have bought N900s thinking that due to it's open-source nature, the community would be able to address these sorts of issues. And then Nokia says, "No, only we can make those sorts of changes". And now you're surprised that everybody's clamouring for Nokia to make changes?

Sorry, this probably isn't the best place for this rant. But I had to get it off my chest. Maybe I should start a blog.

[edit] Forgot to say: what really hurts, is that the N900 is still the closest thing to my idea of a perfect, open-source phone. Every advantage it had over the competition when I bought it a year ago it still has. It's still got the fastest CPU that Nokia has ever put in a phone, it's still got one of the best hardware keyboards and Maemo is still the least consumer-hostile mobile OS I've ever seen. What other phone can you download a completely unrestricted flashing tool for, straight from the manufacturer? Yet so many people want to make it better, and are continuously frustrated that they can't, and even more frustrated that there's no where else to go.

People aren't this angry (or at least not this kind of angry) with Apple, Palm or Microsoft: everyone knows that when you buy an iPhone, your user experience is dictated (for better or worse) by Steve Jobs. Customers who bought the N900 explicitly eschewed that option and made a different choice. But then they find they just choose a different dictator - perhaps a less totalitarian dictator, but still a dictator. So yeah, anger...

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#528
Originally Posted by sony123 View Post
Sorry, I couldn't re-produce it, I will close it as invalid
As requested proof, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3AaM...ure=grec_index

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#529
Originally Posted by vickyg View Post
Originally Posted by Nano View Post
Originally Posted by vickyg View Post
...buy iphone atleast u will have new features every few months.
Features that the N900 already has.
Video Call?
Flash 10.1 or HTML5 Video?
(Quote-nesting added for context, since this thread has been spinning madly...)

Video Call?
Let's see, we had this since day one via SIP and Google Talk, and with PR1.2 we got Skype as well.

Oh, a couple weeks later, Apple finally introduces FaceTime (but only on the brand-new hardware, not available as an update) -- and they even restrict it to WiFi. Maybe, someday, they'll be so generous as to let you decide whether to burn your monthly 3G cap or not; I guess that'll be one of those "new features every few months"? Maybe they'll make it interoperable with another device (iChat support?), and that'll be another?


Flash 10.1
No Flash 10; of course, the iPhone's neither gotten Flash nor (barring SJ donning a helm of opposite alignment) will it ever get it, so...


HTML5 Video?
Fennec has had <video> support for a while; not sure whether the N900 build of Chromium (or any other webkit browser, at that) does or not...

Has the iPhone even gotten proper <video> support (i.e. something other than "forcibly open all videos in their own full-screen windows") yet, or is that still one of the new features Apple may add every few months?

I'll give Apple the benefit of the doubt (after all, it has been a while since I heard about the lack of proper <video> support) and assume they not only do have it, but in fact got it before it showed up in Fennec. That puts the iPhone ahead on one out of your three points -- explain again why waiting for these features "every few months" is better than already having them, and getting only bugfixes in future updates?
 

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#530
Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
As requested proof, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUxFApzSW8
Ok I guess I will mark it as work for some instead.
Seriously though, not re-producible on my phone.
 
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