And that would have to be marketed as a "Meego device" and Elop said that Meego device won't be launched until 2011.

I'm not sure what state MeeGo will be in in Q1/2011 - but you bet I would not, never, under no circumstances, make my next flagship phone depend on it being ready then. Whatever runs on a Q1/2011-phone should be very close to production quality today so developers can test test test test and bugfix bugfix bugfix wontfix.

hmm, that seems very odd but good, because i really like Maemo 5, and always wanted a complete upgraded version of this. Since I heard the Meego was announced, I thought Plain-Maemo was over and Meego has began.

So this probably explains why this leak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywHgqPQNonc looks more like Maemo then Meego. But Two things are still questionable.

1.) First, Meego handset got leaked before the Maemo 6 Harmattan, or that it is ruining Harmattan not meego ?

2.) Why does CEO of Nokia Stephen Elop mention Meego realse product in 2011 before Harmattan If Harmattan does exist ? hmm.

I would say that Harmattan aka fake meego will be released 2011 and first meego 2012. This is not so unlikly anymore. So until nokia say somthing about something.(which they never do) I just assume this can be the case.

the good thing is, n900 live forever... or at least longer. Already started to wait for PR 1.4 after this announcment

I don't know why people even think that MeeGo-Harmatan isn't coming.
Nokia jumping straight to MeeGo was based only on one Gizmodo rumour, thought i have to say that they are indeed one of the most well respected Nokia rumour sites with huge knowledge about MeeGo and Harmattan...

Eldar for example was talking about N9, based on MeeGo-Harmattan to be delayed till Q1 2-3 weeks ago.


Like benny1967 i wouldn't touch pure Meego in Q1 or even Q2.

For me, this rumor started on a German language site a few days ago. They said Harmattan had been cancelled and the N9 will run real MeeGo and will be available ~April 2011

Hope it's "only" a delay as you say (bad enough), not a complete change of strategy. (It would still mean they don't have anything but the N8 for the holiday season.)

they have the mighty n900! start up the production again!

EDIT: and give some guys from nokia order to help out with the meego adaptation for n900 and use that to promote meego.

Elop meant:
What this means is your n900 with Maemo is still king of the hill for now.

Let us Enjoy that as best we can.

And apparently here the n900 has begun to sell out.
I went to buy my backup/hacking unit today and most of the stores I visited
had blank spots where they had even sold their display units.
I did find a store that still had a new one,
but only after looking long and hard.
What they said elsewhere in the stores where they had none
(surrounded by heaps of unsold virgin n97s, btw)
was simply no more stock. When? No more.

This "waiting for Meego N9" will put our patience to the test.
And it means MaemoLand will be ever the more interesting.

Ah well, whatever.

Technically the n900 is not a smatphone, it's a 'mobile compyuter'...

Technically the n900 is not a consumer device. It's just step 4 out of 5 for crying out loud! So everyone in the market for a pocketable smarty^H^H^H^Hmobile computer should RESEARCH it thoroughly first and find out if rhey are smrt enough to own a n900.

You don't choose the n900, it chooses you.

Technically the resistive screen is superior to capacitive, because pin point accuracy and 'the old ways of doing things' is always better than anything else the idiots out there can think of.

Technically is always better than better.

I really am confused by this ever changing strategy - unless Nokia just wants to give the message that they really don't want to go into the high-end category at all and just stick to Symbian.

Meego-harmattan was looking quite good going by the leaked videos and to the common man, that was Meego enough. Yes the dev community would still have hesitated to go full in with a hybrid which was to be short lived platform. But with QT I thought this was not a concern anymore ?

So what is the rationally for abandoning a near complete project and swiching mid-way to pure Meego which we all know is not complete as yet ? Another set of timelines, another round of development to a shifting target (completed Meego OS base), further erosion in credibility as a company strategy, and at last a new Meego device with even less apps than what a mid-way hamattan device would have helped spur.

So what's to be gained ?
Well like others said, I wouldn't count on a first generation pure Meego device as my primary device yet. At least with Meego-Harmattan I knew I could get something better than my Maemo device.