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2010-10-21
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#32
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Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk
Yeah I agree. It's good to know what's the real or fake batteries. It's the information that counts.
i myself was just hooping to get a normal capacity battery out of the e_cell battery.
This Thread is more a warning about that battery since you can see on the EBAY page there has been sold over 700 of these battery's.
But it is a big let down that this battery is only 800mAh
Nokia's battery's are in a metal casing but it is a thin casing, but if it where a thick casing the capacity could be bigger.
If you compare the e_cell to orig nokia, they both are steel cased but the e_cell must use a thicker casing to only have 800mAh instead of 1320mAh
If we compare with AA bats, some of them can go as far as 2000mah or more without having larger size. Wish mobile phones can use these bats even though it looks ugly and feels like remote control. Just 2 AA bats can give 4000mah and that's plenty of juice
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2010-10-21
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#33
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Originally Posted by jpurnomosidi
just a correction, 2 AA bats will give you 3V 2000mAh not 4000mAh then it will only be 1.5V. and whats worse you will need 3 AA bats becuse the phone cuts off at 3.3V but should be able to run up to 5V
Yeah I agree. It's good to know what's the real or fake batteries. It's the information that counts.
If we compare with AA bats, some of them can go as far as 2000mah or more without having larger size. Wish mobile phones can use these bats even though it looks ugly and feels like remote control. Just 2 AA bats can give 4000mah and that's plenty of juice
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2010-10-21
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#34
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Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk
just a correction, 2 AA bats will give you 3V 2000mAh not 4000mAh then it will only be 1.5V. and whats worse you will need 3 AA bats becuse the phone cuts off at 3.3V but should be able to run up to 5V
How about this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13453 ?
It's not 2000mah each? I agree with the voltage.
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2010-10-21
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#35
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Originally Posted by jpurnomosidi
well you still need 3 battery's witch would be heavy and bulky, but then you will get a 2100mAh battery for the phone.
How about this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13453 ?
It's not 2000mah each? I agree with the voltage.
only problem is that it's Ni-MH and they sometimes need extensive battery treatment or else they get a memory effect and get useless.
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2010-10-21
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#36
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Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk
I see I get it now. Thanks for the info
well you still need 3 battery's witch would be heavy and bulky, but then you will get a 2100mAh battery for the phone.
only problem is that it's Ni-MH and they sometimes need extensive battery treatment or else they get a memory effect and get useless.
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2010-10-21
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#37
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Originally Posted by jpurnomosidi
Your welcome
I see I get it now. Thanks for the info
always glad to help
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2010-10-21
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#38
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Most of the "extensive battery treatment" is kinda bogus.. The problem starts with that you can abuse nimh, and they don't explode, just become "useless". So, chargers can be ****, and devices can be ****, without posing a safety hazard, but still killing the batteries.
The batteries don't die, they get slowly tortured to death.
Li-Ion is somewhat better in that regard, if you abuse them they tend to protest by doing something the industry calls "venting with flame". Normal people would say "explode". Thus, chargers and devices actually need to have a 0.1 cent part instead of a 0.01 cent part to manage the charging...
The batteries don't die, they get slowly tortured to death.
Li-Ion is somewhat better in that regard, if you abuse them they tend to protest by doing something the industry calls "venting with flame". Normal people would say "explode". Thus, chargers and devices actually need to have a 0.1 cent part instead of a 0.01 cent part to manage the charging...
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2010-10-21
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#39
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Originally Posted by shadowjk
it's funny about the exploding lipo battery, i have never seen my battery's do that, some have puffed op like balloons, but thats when they have be discharged to much, and i have overcharged battery's a couple of times without any drama.
Most of the "extensive battery treatment" is kinda bogus.. The problem starts with that you can abuse nimh, and they don't explode, just become "useless". So, chargers can be ****, and devices can be ****, without posing a safety hazard, but still killing the batteries.
The batteries don't die, they get slowly tortured to death.
Li-Ion is somewhat better in that regard, if you abuse them they tend to protest by doing something the industry calls "venting with flame". Normal people would say "explode". Thus, chargers and devices actually need to have a 0.1 cent part instead of a 0.01 cent part to manage the charging...
And i have some 70+ cells laying around, of all kinds.
The battery's are all so getting better and better.
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2010-10-21
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Originally Posted by shadowjk
Unfortunately, I have a couple of Li-Ion batteries which are dead or near dead now just because I allowed it to sit in my storage box and slowly discharge. It is especially with embedded batteries like batteries in Bluetouth headphones - even I charged it to full the long sitting in locker starves it to death. The same problem is with some camcoders which have an internal Li-Ion battery to keep configuration short time while you exchange a Big Battery.
Most of the "extensive battery treatment" is kinda bogus.. The problem starts with that you can abuse nimh, and they don't explode, just become "useless". So, chargers can be ****, and devices can be ****, without posing a safety hazard, but still killing the batteries.
The batteries don't die, they get slowly tortured to death.
Li-Ion is somewhat better in that regard, if you abuse them they tend to protest by doing something the industry calls "venting with flame". Normal people would say "explode". Thus, chargers and devices actually need to have a 0.1 cent part instead of a 0.01 cent part to manage the charging...
Never allow your Li-Ion to discharge fully.
This Thread is more a warning about that battery since you can see on the EBAY page there has been sold over 700 of these battery's.
But it is a big let down that this battery is only 800mAh
Nokia's battery's are in a metal casing but it is a thin casing, but if it where a thick casing the capacity could be bigger.
If you compare the e_cell to orig nokia, they both are steel cased but the e_cell must use a thicker casing to only have 800mAh instead of 1320mAh