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#261
Originally Posted by lunat View Post
maybe others got further than i. as i see it most use the maemo stuff, put it on the image and run it. that way you might get a fairly working thing. but to be honest this is actually maemo running in the background with ubuntu on top.

and if you want to have it running without copy and paste from maemo it gets difficult. they have a 2.6.35 kernel and you need the kernel support which is only given to a certain degree. so you need to collect your peaces. e.g. i have no phone working up to now. something is missing(even without pin ...).also that stuff changes a lot so if there are descriptions they are often outdated so you need to read the mailinglists... then you need to boot it. you again have to decide to use the maemo kernel and with it the maemo stuff or use kexec wich is maemo testing or fuss with the bootloader.

so i think you may get it running but i consider it highly devel. but others may have gotten further than i.

it might be worth to look at meego, how they boot and try their kernel. afaik the majority of the kernel work that is pushed upstream atm comes from the meego folks. great work there. i also saw that they have a description to boot meego in a way that is similar to how i do it(but i only skimmed over it) so that might be a solution to boot into ubuntu as well(independend of maemo).

im at it and i hope others are well.
thx lunat..i thought the installation is pretty straight forward..but i think i'll wait for it to be stable first..

however..i don't understand the flash step which is

Shutdown the N900, hold the U key to go into flashing mode then
Code:
flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-omap-wd,no-lifeguard-reset,no-ext-wd
do i have to plug the usb cable, and run the command on the PC?
 
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#262
this is turning off the watchdogs. the phone has timers to detect if the phone hangs/crashed/is bricked and do a reset if this is the case. you usually have to send them a signal every once in a while to show them that everything is still ok. if you don't the phone reboots. usually the bootmanager starts them and that line prevents the bootloader from starting them.
its basicly saying: "watchdogs stay away!"

there is whatchdogsupport in the mainstream kernel so you don't neccesarily need that but in that case you have to take care that they are configured,. actually i have them running for i want the thing to restart if something goes wrong. this is the emergency break i want to have.

and yes if you do something with the flasher you have to put it on the usb: sure.

Originally Posted by one1002 View Post
however..i don't understand the flash step which is
PC?

Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-02 at 07:31.
 
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Originally Posted by lunat View Post
this is turning off the watchdogs. the phone has timers to detect if the phone hangs/crashed/is bricked and do a reset if this is the case. you usually have to send them a signal every once in a while to show them that everything is still ok. if you don't the phone reboots. usually the bootmanager starts them and that line prevents the bootloader from starting them.
its basicly saying: "watchdogs stay away!"

there is whatchdogsupport in the mainstream kernel so you don't neccesarily need that but in that case you have to take care that they are configured,. actually i have them running for i want the thing to restart if something goes wrong. this is the emergency break i want to have.

and yes if you do something with the flasher you have to put it on the usb: sure.
so does it mean we have to flash it into R&D mode everytime if we want to boot into GNOME desktop?

though mohammad is not seen anywhere in TMO lately, i could feel that this is gonna be stable soon, but i dont know when..can't wait for ubuntu to get stable on the N900...would love to have this..

any idea when?

edited : where can i get the ubuntu 10.10 image to install on the N900?

Last edited by one1002; 2010-11-02 at 18:41.
 
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#264
Originally Posted by one1002 View Post
so does it mean we have to flash it into R&D mode everytime if we want to boot into GNOME desktop?
no, its the development(R&D) mode of the phone. you can only disable watchdogs in development mode. in production mode you can't. once you turned the switch it stays in that mode with disabled watchdogs until you put them on again. its comparable to changing settings in the bios of a pc.

if its only for gnome: that should work.

but if its only for gnome you might want to try a different approach:
have a close look at the easy debian. there a many howtos in the web.
basicly you install a ubuntu image on the sd or in a file. mount that(in case of a file via loopback). then you go in via chroot. in the chroot you can configure a xserver. on that xserver you can have gnome. only thing you have to take care is to either use a virtual server(server in a window like xnest ) or put it on a different vt(eg put it on vt9) and change to that vt via "chvt". that would result in having hildon /and/ gnome running on the phone as an addon to maemo.

Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-02 at 19:43.
 
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#265
Finally I have ubuntu netbook maverick 10.10 installed and booting from my SD card.
But I don't understand how to make the keyboard and touch screen to work.
Can someone help me?

@lunat:
Where should I write your configs?
I don't have a xorg.conf file in ubuntu.
 
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Originally Posted by CepiPerez View Post
Finally I have ubuntu netbook maverick 10.10 installed and booting from my SD card.
But I don't understand how to make the keyboard and touch screen to work.
Can someone help me?

@lunat:
Where should I write your configs?
I don't have a xorg.conf file in ubuntu.
may i know what is the class of your SD?

and how is the speed of UBUNTU netbook on the phone itself?

another question, where can i get the ubuntu netbook 10.10 image?thx bro
 
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#267
Can't test speed cause I cant use it without touchscreen and keyboard
Images are here.

EDIT: Kingston SDHC 8gb class 4

Last edited by CepiPerez; 2010-11-03 at 18:04.
 
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#268
[i said i consider this highly devel, so...]
X configuration is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.(backup and edit)
if you have no xorg.conf you will have to create one.
and if you want it realy ubuntu put it /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
or put it whereever you want - just tell X where you put it.

drivers go to a subdir of /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/.
driver loading is in /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d


important are the drivers. once the drivers are loaded you have input. its limited(keys are missing) but its there.
same for the touchscreen: as soon as driver loaded and you start X you find some babbeling in the xorg.log (just start X )about the touchscreen as it tries to configure it automaticly.
it doesn't configure it correctly so you need a little setting.

and i have multiple kernels atm. problem tsc2005 is not in the mainstream kernel so you have to compile that(or get it from somewhere matching to your kernel) see at the startpost think there was a link to it compliled for some kernel.

additionally for me it makes no sence to use the ubuntu kernel for it is too old(2.35) for the phone which gets support only now.


[ and to get that straight: what i do differs a little to what others do. i try to find out everything that you need to have ubuntu or debian running /standalone/. that is that you can replace maemo with it. not only to make it somehow apear. and this with reasonalble small changes to the dist.
e.g. the input i told to compile is in debian expierimental or even unstable so it is a reasonable small change for it will make it in the dist. the tsc2005 driver is not in the kernel but is pushed upstream a long time ago and will make it into the mainstream kernel so its a reasonable small change. however copying sth. from maeomo is not a reasonable small change for it is closed stuff which will never make it in the dist. all such stuff is usless.
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Originally Posted by CepiPerez View Post
Finally I have ubuntu netbook maverick 10.10 installed and booting from my SD card.
But I don't understand how to make the keyboard and touch screen to work.
Can someone help me?

@lunat:
Where should I write your configs?
I don't have a xorg.conf file in ubuntu.

Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-03 at 19:47.
 
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#269
@lunat

the keyboard and touch screen on ubuntu netbook maverick 10.10 tsc2005 on your N900 working?

please share / upload your tsc2005 or some file who make keyboard and touch screen work...

thanks....
 
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#270
Heres a post about getting powerVR drivers compiled, on the beagleboard which has the same gpu http://www.graphics-muse.org/bugs/in...ils&task_id=19
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