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2010-12-08
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Yep, I see it now, I thought the assertion was that Nokia was discouraging developers from using Maemo, but it was Instinctiv. Something doesn't add up in that story, even if using GTK, MeeGo can run it.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by mattbutsko
Strange post this one. You do not feel we are entitled to updates to things that were advertised as a feature of the device (like flash) but you feel entitled to voice navigation for free which was something that was never ever suggested by Nokia?
It's comments like these that are truly stupid. Same for "We should totally get our moneyz back man."
Get over it, you paid for a (mostly) open source Linux phone, that's what you got. You didn't pay hundreds for minor firmware updates. Love my N900, even though Hildon's graphical performance is terrible (almost makes or breaks a device for me). I saw the phone, thought "That would be cool", so I bought it. We don't deserve flash 10 just because it was demoed on the N900 or just because Froyo and Gingerbread have it. We don't deserve free or discounted N9s, that's just effing stupid.
We do deserve Ovi Maps 3 with voice nav, I'll give you that much.
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2010-12-08
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grass is always greener in the other side of the fence. MOTO Milestone doesn't even have flash although it's advertised on the box...
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2010-12-08
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Heck. Even if I was Nokia, I would discourage writing apps just for N900. There is too little money in the N900 market. So even if N900 does support Qt, commercial apps will not come to N900 imo.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by ymartin59
FFS. There aren't even any meego devices out there yet so how would the N900 be taking away sales? Apple providing updates to their older devices isn't stopping people buying newer devices. And right now Apple seems to be making more money than Nokia.
Well, Nokia needs to make money and discontinue N900 is a way for better sales for the future MeeGo device.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by heartbreakdoctor
Give me a break. You can't scroll a webpage without screen tearning.
n900 more elegant than n9,n9 maybe faster but there is nothn N900 cant do
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
Nope. There is a big difference here.. Ovi Maps on the n900 was (and still is) a crippled version of the one for Symbian. This is far more egregious than not getting flash 10.1 IMO.
Strange post this one. You do not feel we are entitled to updates to things that were advertised as a feature of the device (like flash) but you feel entitled to voice navigation for free which was something that was never ever suggested by Nokia?
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by danramos
A few notes - Android operates in a fundamentaly different way so these comparisons are apples and oranges. When you talk about the open Android, you forget the 'flavor', the things vendors (do not) put in. Just because something is Android based, that doesn't mean you would not have kernel driver issues, potential lack of source of it's Sense/Blur/YouNameIt interface, etc. Also, Google's cloud services seem to liberate them from open source expectations, as if something executing on a server makes the source irrelevant. Well, if I need to call a web service in blackbox fashion, it IS as bad as a binary blob (in fact, it's a bit worse, as at least the blob can't be taken away from me as easily). Thus the bottom line is you should be comparing generic Android with generic Linux, and (service backed) vendor implementations with other vendor implementations.
I can't say iOS is any better but by contrast, Android has seemed like the best of the bunch with far less closed source in Android than Maemo has ever had AND they listened to everybody that called for untying their Google closed-source proprietary applications from the operating system firmware images so that you can have a far more lighter OS and far, FAR more updates and bug fixes to the individual applications without waiting for a whole new operating system update (the way Nokia has decided to go with Maemo so far, pathetically).
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2010-12-08
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i think we should ust give more support to the NITDROID proyect to make it the new OS on the n900 and make it Ndroid
since there are lots of android devs around, we should just take advantage of it, better tools, better apps, more devs and full open source, better in almost every way.
ilike my n900 but hell, it discourages getting a good smartphone and then they saying discontinued, ure fkd.
if all this rant its about support, lets just give it to nitdroid
my 2 cents
since there are lots of android devs around, we should just take advantage of it, better tools, better apps, more devs and full open source, better in almost every way.
ilike my n900 but hell, it discourages getting a good smartphone and then they saying discontinued, ure fkd.
if all this rant its about support, lets just give it to nitdroid
my 2 cents
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by jflatt
I don't think vanilla Meego has real support for GTK. Meego-Harmattan on the other hand may.
Yep, I see it now, I thought the assertion was that Nokia was discouraging developers from using Maemo, but it was Instinctiv. Something doesn't add up in that story, even if using GTK, MeeGo can run it.
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