even when there is no flash 10.1 and some things could be better with the n900 i am really happy with the mini computer.
It was very brave of Nokia to produce such a cool freaky "phone" with a independent and open OS . Today mobile phone market is very hard ..maybe too hard to experiment with open source.However.. Nokia and this community made my dream come true.

:-)

This thread was made for Atilla, wasn't it?

.....So Thanks Nokia for Our lovely "machin-truc"

yes another thank you nokia thread. thank you for another thank you nokia thread.

Thanks

Thanks Dave999. And thanks, lq_sunshine.

thank you danramos

I wanna thank God... And satan of course...

Haha, at least he put it in talk general.

On balance, Nokia gets a lot of bashing for their excruciating cruft,
but the OP has a point - a big company putting a telephone into
a linux computer meant that some people put some serious effort
into bending some financial ears.

After struggling uphill upstream for the past few years
just trying to justify a few critical-app linux machines in an organization
that is owned, managed and populated by M$-worshiping sycophants
I can really appreciate the problems of getting closed-source minds
to even tolerate open-source frameworks.

The Nokia effort has made an effort which is covered with warts
and lipstick, but the fundamental fact remains that the basic
premise was actually marketed has been an epic landmark.
(NB - Android is simply just a poor imitation using a hacked kernel
that actually looks like an effort to undermine linux standards
with a closed-garden javacode ripoff rather than an actual OSS fork.

The only alternative to the n900 with its closed-source bits
is hacking phone-hardware and drivers etc. into a tablet computer
which would really be a pig with lipstick.
Furthermore, judging by the gear that is out there this is still
something which could be done but there would be no community
and would also be quite difficult to achieve in practice.

Thank you to the technical team at Nokia for putting together a great device.

My N900 is invaluable to me. It's the closest thing to having Linux in my pocket and allowing me the flexibility to install what I like on it.

The PR updates over the past year fixed many bugs and improved my experience using the N900. Maemo is on it's way to becoming a stable and powerful mobile OS which by today's standards is still way ahead of anything on the market today.
Thank you.

However. "Thank you" Nokia Management for:
1) End-of-lifing Maemo. The huge gains you made with it has been pissed away because you decided to start the whole process again with meego.

2) Completely ignoring the community and our opinions this year. A majority of the community wanted the latest version of Flash but you ignored us.

3) For refusing to release the source code to N900 software. If you use open-source software you should really give something back.

4) The N900 was £500 and more powerful than the N97 but you considered the N97 a "flagship" device but not the N900. Most other Nokia owners got free navigation except us.

5) For dropping your trousers waving your bottom in the air and saying to your competitors "OK boys who wants our market share?". Nokia were the only European company that could have been a credible competitor to the likes of Apple, Microsoft, Blackberry and Google.

I dont know how many people really care about their phone being Open, but I can bet they are not even the majority of folks who purchased n900.

Open source zealots, please get off your high horses, and smell the coffee. There are far too many great close sourced alternatives in the market.

A phone/OS without close sourced apps is a zombie. Look at the great linux. Two critical pieces are close sourced. Skype and Flash, without which the only linux desktop users are left would be RMS himself.

And for a much more consumer driven device like a phone, the key for its success is app. As long as you have great apps for the platform, few people care about it being 'open source' or 'close source'.