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1. The best UI man in the business is in charge of Nokia's MeeGo UI and Services.





2. A huge workforce full of fresh new minds is busy pulling it all together behind the scenes right now.



3. No news is good news. I remember the huge amount of speculation before the first iPhone was announced. MeeGo has a similarly high level of anticipation.



Some good news that should calm some of your nerves and has not been reported by any major blogs thus far is the amount of ex-Palm people currently working on MeeGo and New Symbian at Nokia.

Matt Crowley , former Director of Product Management in the Palm Phone, now the current Director of Product Management at Nokia
Karl Townsend , former chief architect, the founder of Palm and Handspring employee, now Distinguished Hardware Architect at Nokia
Phil McClendon , former Director of Product Management for Palm, currently Senior Product Marketing Manager, Messaging Nokia.
Radhika Sarang , former Senior Product Manager at Palm, currently Senior Product Marketing Manager at Nokia
Rob Haitani , former director of product marketing at Handspring, and Product Design Architect at Palm is currently Distinguished UI/UX Architect at Nokia.

4. The intentionally vague statement: “Nokia must compete on ecosystem to ecosystem basis. In addition to great device experiences we must build, catalyse or join a competitive ecosystem. And the ecosystem approach we select must be comprehensive and cover a wide range of utilities and services that customers expect today and anticipate in the future.”

“Whatever the strategy is we outline on Feb. 11, we very clearly ensuring that it will give us the opportunity to reopen markets such as the U.S. and some others, where we have not recently been present.”

They are currently building that ecosystem around Qt and OVI services. What he may announce are new partnerships similar to their Yahoo/OVI Mail deal for things like entertainment related apps and partnerships for the US market. Once the new Symbian UI, QtWebkit browser and MeeGo is released, it will hopefully act as a catalyst that draws in new developers but it's not the only carrot ... This is the ecosystem that needs to deliver results. They won't jump ship to any other OS or ecosystem unless MeeGo fails to gain traction (which is highly unlikely).


http://conference2010.meego.com/site...em_publish.pdf


5. Qt is starting to gain a lot of momentum. Qt SDK 1.1 Technology Preview has just been released. It has already been ported to Android and iOS. Developers are also already starting to do cool things with it. If Qt can draw in enough developers attracted by the advantages of true cross-platform development then it can be notched down as another catalysing win for the Qt ecosystem. I think what will happen once Qt SDK 1.1 final release is out, is a large marketing drive to woo developers over to the advantages of using Qt. Nokia still control 1/3rd of the global smartphone market. They are working to fix their shortcomings. The sky hasn't fallen yet.

Qt Quick on a Samsung Galaxy Tab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtA_7kaB-0g

Qt Mobility on iOS (iPod touch 4G)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_6a5Zwpb4



http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sourc...ntu-linux/8102



https://projects.forum.nokia.com/twimgo



http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/01/20/...view-released/



https://projects.forum.nokia.com/turntable



https://projects.forum.nokia.com/quickhit
 

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good reading material there, thanks for taking the time to make an informative post.
 
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Nice Post You could certainly Learn the so called Journo's a thing or two about presenting the Facts.
 
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Nice Post You could certainly Learn the so called Journo's a thing or two about presenting the Facts.
I think some "journalists" do it on purpose to mess with people's heads though. It's called FUD for a reason
 
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More speculation to the Palm mix:

http://opensource.palm.com/2.0.0/index.html

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.../repos/source/

What if WebOS went MeeGo-based? Awesome amount of shared components and challenges.

(This is my own private speculation and I'm honestly wondering why HP Palm -wouldn't- join MeeGo. Similar challenges, similar codebase, similar targets in terms of hardware)

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Excellent points. The only people who seem to be screaming for Nokia to ditch everything for Android or WP7 are certain American Tech journos/bloggers, who are very blinkered.

I really don't expect Meego to be dumped by Nokia as they are too far down the road with it. I think over the next 13-18 months meego will crop up everywhere. I actually expect to see the likes of HTC release Meego handsets.

Elop's key point for me was how the industry has clustered around the ecosystems in the last 2/3 years with the iTunes/iOS devices and Google/Android. Whilst Nokia has Ovi which is doing well, it is not yet slick enough or compelling enough for a lot of people, even on Symbian^3, which surprised me to be honest.

One of the key challenges for Nokia is to polish everything surrounding Ovi up, and get everything working out of the box with it, and with anything else which may be needed.

Make no mistake, if Meego gets enough market penetration, Google will offer their systems for it (such as mail, maps etc) as they are a marketing/advertising corp, and want as much data as they can get to analyse and push products and services (ads) to. Android is just an Ad platform like google maps or mail. More user data means more and better targetted advertising, and more cash for Google. Google don't really care about what OS or phone they use.
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Originally Posted by gazza_d View Post
Excellent points. The only people who seem to be screaming for Nokia to ditch everything for Android or WP7 are certain American Tech journos/bloggers, who are very blinkered.
This **** again?

American this, American that. Please point out to folks what should be source of this information? It takes an enterprising soul such as Maluka to combine this stuff... and it takes a completely daft person to believe each and everything any American blog says as the complete truth.

Bias is everywhere. Show me an European site of your choice - I don't even care what language you pick - that should be the unbiased place for all of this information.

I'm horribly sick and tired of this type of repeated banter. Ever thought of who might be the most responsible problem for your opinion? The company with the information not sharing any or the blog (don't say journalists, anybody with half a brain knows that it isn't true journalism) that spews forth sensationalistic misconceptions based on leaked or rumored information?

Seriously folks. If everything is so bad in America, please stop going to their blogs. Only read your own. Or better yet, get your blogs to be as prominent as you think Engadget and Gizmodo are.
 

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Originally Posted by gazza_d View Post
Make no mistake, if Meego gets enough market penetration, Google will offer their systems for it (such as mail, maps etc) as they are a marketing/advertising corp, and want as much data as they can get to analyse and push products and services (ads) to. Android is just an Ad platform like google maps or mail. More user data means more and better targetted advertising, and more cash for Google. Google don't really care about what OS or phone they use.
I agree on that. However there is one option Elop could look into: Issue a few Google (Android) phones (Nexus 3) for the U.S market. Get in return Google's commitment for deep gmail / calendar integration with Meego and Symbian. Only problem: how to do (temporary) Android without too much damage to Ovi / Symbian / Meego? Maybe the solution is Qt for Android?
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps View Post
More speculation to the Palm mix:

http://opensource.palm.com/2.0.0/index.html

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.../repos/source/

What if WebOS went MeeGo-based? Awesome amount of shared components and challenges.

(This is my own private speculation and I'm honestly wondering why HP Palm -wouldn't- join MeeGo. Similar challenges, similar codebase, similar targets in terms of hardware)
Yes it could infact be true dont forget that Jaaksi joined HP and Skillman Nokia a merge of those OS:es would be a win for all sides is my guess
 

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iOS or Android will be defeated!!!
 

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