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	Brock	2011-02-11 , 16:10
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Originally Posted by patlak

Why so much in WP7 R&D? Isn't that Microsoft's job? I wonder where them moneyz will go...

i can tell you. Its going into the pocket of the devil (elop)

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	Brock	2011-02-11 , 16:11
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Originally Posted by ivlok

Maybe Elop tenure won't be that long
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:NOK

i hope that the board of directors will mention this and think about what elop did to one of the greatest companies in europe... ruining it...

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patlak	2011-02-11 , 16:12
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Originally Posted by Brock

i can tell you. Its going into the pocket of the devil (elop)

His pocket must be hell..

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	mrojas	2011-02-11 , 16:12
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Originally Posted by patlak

Elop gonna get raped by all satisfied Symbian users. There is a lot.

If I had been in the press conference, I would have thrown my shoes at him.

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bugelrex	2011-02-11 , 16:14
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Originally Posted by patlak

UI? Simplest thing to fix, it's just spoilers on the car, under the hood Symbian is a Veyron SS.

Its true, its much easier to fix than the stuff under the hood. It was so simple, Nokia screwed it up twice in 3 years even with a HUGE r&d budget!
The UI overhaul on n97, horrid.. horrid experience
The UI overhaul on n8, more consistent but still feels like early 2000.

There's absolutely no reason to expect them to be successful a 3rd time round. The problems are probably due to
- 10+ year old Symbian code turned to spaghetti, code changes very difficult to make without a domino effect over the rest of the code
- poor poor project management and 9am-5pm paycheck Symbian developers who are there just to fix bugs.. not rock the boat

i get the impression the Symbian software department was so fundamentally broken it could not be fixed without mass firings

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patlak	2011-02-11 , 16:19
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Originally Posted by mrojas

If I had been in the press conference, I would have thrown my shoes at him.

Only the cheap kind. He would suffer so much being touched by them cheap ones, or we should just pay that experienced Arab who threw them at Bush, he won't miss this time.

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	volt	2011-02-11 , 16:20
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Goodbye my friends,
it's hard to die
when all the birds
are singing in the sky...

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patlak	2011-02-11 , 16:26
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Originally Posted by bugelrex

Its true, its much easier to fix than the stuff under the hood. It was so simple, Nokia screwed it up twice in 3 years even with a HUGE r&d budget!
The UI overhaul on n97, horrid.. horrid experience
The UI overhaul on n8, more consistent but still feels like early 2000.

There's absolutely no reason to expect them to be successful a 3rd time round. The problems are probably due to
- 10+ year old Symbian code turned to spaghetti, code changes very difficult to make without a domino effect over the rest of the code
- poor poor project management and 9am-5pm paycheck Symbian developers who are there just to fix bugs.. not rock the boat

i get the impression the Symbian software department was so fundamentally broken it could not be fixed without mass firings

S^4 was supposed to be a huge overhaul. The team probably took their time to create a UI that would last another decade. The OS is the most optimized, can't go wrong with that.

N97 didn't have any new UI, it just introduced widgets. When it was first introduced in the trailer, most were impressed. Slow hardware gave Symbian bad rep. If they continiued the OMAP 2420 route, all would have been perfect.

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canabal	2011-02-11 , 16:28
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Originally Posted by twodice

I actually like the idea of nokia and ms. Nokia still make the best hardware for me.Their build quality is great too

Lets not forget samsung take ages to release updates - e.g all the galaxy range ( and yes i own a tab and a galaxy s)

sony ericsson - look at the x10 and others, no 2.2 for them at all and no xda devs port so far.

lg - piss poor in general.

htc are ok but still make hardware which is questionable in terms of durability - screen issues and the old htc tytn 2/ nearly all htc phones video driver problem for which i have not forgiven them ( i owned a tytn2).

the only other option is th eiphone and ill be lloking closely at the iphone 5 but id rather a nokia build with wp7. ultimatley we all more or less started with win mo anyway so its just continuing the trend.

theres no need for anyone to abandon ship unless you think for some reason the grass is greener on the other side.

still happy with my n900.

Google Nexus S. That is all.