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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by sachin007
Sorry, Sachin, but the only think Nokia believes in is its bottom line. If Open Source is good for Nokia's bottom line, then Nokia believes in Open Source. As soon as Nokia figured out that Open Source did not work for them as they said they believed, then they stop believing.
Regarding maemo, Nokia always believed in open source right from the 770 days. The previous Finnish executives always believed that meego would be the future of nokia smart phones. Now this bastard from america comes and converts the whole company into a microsoft *****.
With today's announcements it is clear that Nokia doesn't believe in Open Source to deliver the goods.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by shallimus
The cool thing about Ovi Music was that it was DRM free and plain download, so it works on everything.. I imagine zune is the usual DRM-plagued nonsense that requires proprietary windows-only software to get songs out of?
To be fair, I didn't know that the Zune marketplace had 6 million songs in it. But that doesn't really get me excited as I'd need to buy a WP device to use it on my phone. No thanks.
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2011-02-11
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@gerbick
Originally Posted by gerbick
You seem to be a very educated guy....Do you feel that Nokia's move from a Open powerful OS to a restrictive less powerful one is a good move?
I wouldn't.
I own an Android based phone, had the N900, been testing a WP7 for the last week.
Android isn't as much freedom as Maemo. It's more freedom than iOS. And WP7 feels as restricted as iOS, but with even less features presently.
I wouldn't suggest that you go anywhere but where you're more comfortable.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by svdwal
If they didn't put money in Open Source - why they believe in some profit in this? I am just basing on poor support for N900... it seems like it is done by enthusiasts only. At least Nokia doesn't pay for it.
Sorry, Sachin, but the only think Nokia believes in is its bottom line. If Open Source is good for Nokia's bottom line, then Nokia believes in Open Source. As soon as Nokia figured out that Open Source did not work for them as they said they believed, then they stop believing.
With today's announcements it is clear that Nokia doesn't believe in Open Source to deliver the goods.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by shadowjk
The cool thing about Ovi Music was that it was DRM free and plain download, so it works on everything.. I imagine zune is the usual DRM-plagued nonsense that requires proprietary windows-only software to get songs out of?
Mac support is also there.
I do have to say that the DRM is a problem. None of my songs do have any DRM - I transitioned from iTunes (they dropped it 2+ years ago) but I have a collection of my own music in CD format like no other.
So Zune just basically is my software that I use to play music whilst on my computer.
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2011-02-11
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by gerbick
This isn't going to happen. You're quite right about the heads and the places where the sun doesn't shine, but with Nokia dropping MeeGo as it's next big platform, MeeGo is dead. Nokia is going to get plenty of problems getting WinPhone7 to work and they do not need the MeeGo distraction.
What needs to happen is for people to get their head out of their arse, buy what they want - the MeeGo device - and produce quality software that honestly makes Nokia realize what they have... an innovative product in Maemo, a potentially innovative product with MeeGo and yet again another missed opportunity that they need to capitalize upon.
MeeGo might now become a way to spot talent from hard-to-get-at places, but that's it.
Oh... and it's not the death of Qt either - Visual Studio has Qt extensions.
Nokia has just screwed all those people by murdering Qt, instead of putting it on top of WinPhone 7. Qt's role is now to be Symbian's and MeeGo's API. But Symbian is dead and MeeGo is dead, so Qt is dead.
But wait, there is more. Nokia is now also subsidizing the development of a unifying and free PC platform, making it possible to target multiple markets with a single set of sources. Yes, that is very much Nokia's core business.
So, Nokia is going to drop Qt support very soon. With luck, they create a new TrollTech, but where is that company going to make it';s money from, now Qt is LGPL'led?
Nope, Qt is dead. A community might be created to try and revive the beast, but now it is dead.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by deyons
I'm not educated... just love gadgets, been a Linux user since the mid-90's, somehow kept up with Windows, use a Mac, and I piss off folks in these parts since I've signed up somehow.
@gerbick
You seem to be a very educated guy....Do you feel that Nokia's move from a Open powerful OS to a restrictive less powerful one is a good move?
If you want my true opinion about this move, it's backwards. I'd have to speculate (read: guess) that it means that MeeGo still isn't ready for primetime. But the move to WP7, it's just so very backwards.
Nokia traded in a MeeGo 1.x (first retail release) for Windows Phone 7 which basically is a "first retail release" since Microsoft broke all compatibility with Windows Mobile 6.x and prior. Both are unfinished in my opinion, and it's akin to picking a horse of the same age, of the same level of maturity and somehow I think it's a real gamble.
In this case, Nokia can task Microsoft to get the stuff that people actually want - like copy and friggin' paste. But at the same time, they now have to wait on Microsoft to deliver it - which breaks all of Nokia's prior culture.
I'm not a fan of this decision one bit. But you won't catch me whining about it. I just think it's a bit too short-sighted of Nokia to go this route. But if MeeGo can't ship, final in say 3 months, this does make sense. I'd consider this a patch for now.
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2011-02-11
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I am shocked and saddened. It does look like the well-planned, inside job of killing one of the most innovative companies out there.
Can we start some kind of online petition and send the link to whoever you possibly can? Make it viral? At least be heard? In this day and age much is possible.
Also, look at the stock, it's already plumetting.
The Elop guy should be removed ASAP. Bring back the innovative Finns!
PS: My heart goes out to those brave Nokia employees not afraid to show their protest. Thank you for your hard work and good luck.
Last edited by Vitusya; 2011-02-11 at 18:19.
Can we start some kind of online petition and send the link to whoever you possibly can? Make it viral? At least be heard? In this day and age much is possible.
Also, look at the stock, it's already plumetting.
The Elop guy should be removed ASAP. Bring back the innovative Finns!
PS: My heart goes out to those brave Nokia employees not afraid to show their protest. Thank you for your hard work and good luck.
Last edited by Vitusya; 2011-02-11 at 18:19.
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I own an Android based phone, had the N900, been testing a WP7 for the last week.
Android isn't as much freedom as Maemo. It's more freedom than iOS. And WP7 feels as restricted as iOS, but with even less features presently.
I wouldn't suggest that you go anywhere but where you're more comfortable.