might find something interesting in this blog post by Rasterman (head developer of the Enlightenment WM, worked for OpenMoko for a little bit, recently went to work for Samsung):

http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News

Rasterman (if it was him) dropped into the freenode meego channel. If Samsung plays nice and does what he says, then they'll be winners, IMO.

But they need to do. So far they haven't. But hell, I'd put my money where my mouth is and buy a device that meets my specs if it's actually as open as he says, and works FULLY.

standard Glibc, I like it.

now we can reevaluate the true gnu/unix platform openmoko ?

Sounds promising , we'll see.

Wow. I have disliked Samsung for some time (bad experience with reliability of hardware), but this could turn me around.

He says all the right words, but we've seen this from Nokia before too. Let's see how well they put these words to execution. Despite my glowingly positive experiences with my Samsung Galaxy Tab, there is still much there to criticize that makes me somewhat skeptical.

I'll keep an eye on this as well.

Yet another ranty post. I bought a n900 after Motorola locked down my Milestone's firmware. Now, Nokia will (effectively) abandon Linux for Windows.

Back to Android it is. It's too bad. I really like the n900 and I'll certainly keep it around. There's been quite a bit of progress getting Android 2.2 and 2.3 kernels shoehorned into ROMs for the Milestone while I've been playing in Nokia-land.

It looks like a good time to go back. I'm intrigued by Samsung. The Samsung Galaxy line was looking sharp (if problematic with GPS driver bugginess), and it becomes more appealing now that there's a chroot Ubuntu for it. Then again, there's also chroot Ubuntu for the Milestone.

After two burns in close succession, I think it's time to take a "wait and see" attitude. I'm two for two with companies deciding to sh*t all over the loyal customers doing the legwork for their products. After spending $1000 on two phones in the past two years, it's time to back off and let someone else buy the turkeys.

Sorry to rant in this thread, back to your regularly scheduled discussion about Samsung as an alternative....

@eachna,

I'm with you on Samsung, by the way.

I bought a Galaxy S and had to return it after a week because of all the bugs (the GPS issue being one of them). The story at the time was that they were going to push an update "any day now"; but 7 months later, they haven't fixed anything.

I returned it because I just felt deep down that they weren't going to fix things in a decent time frame (I'm glad to see I was vindicated).

I feel like Samsung is definitely on the way up, so I'm hoping they make better inroads to not dicking over their customers.

PalmHP webOS? Linux distro by and large.

May even have a future... "if HP pulls it off".

Given the fighting words HP has quetly been chanting I do not see them abandoning the mobile device market before they even got a chance to play...unlike someone we know...