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Originally Posted by mmurfin87
I'm not talking about Zune MarketPlace, I'm talking about the Zune
Zune is absolutely not a fail.
Zune marketplace has actually recently been gaining considerably on iTunes and will only increase in the future.
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Hummm lets see, is the ZUNE a Fail?.....Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune
In January 2009 Microsoft's quarterly earnings filing with the SEC indicated that Zune sales had fallen $100 million from 2007 to 2008 during the fourth quarter of the calendar year. The Wall Street Journal estimated that sales appear to have dropped from about $185 million during the holiday period in 2007 to just $85 million in 2008.....Zune market share decreased to 2% in the first half of 2009,
Sales of Zune and related products were off 14% in Microsoft's most recent quarter
ProTip. Don't attack Facts with opinions.
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2011-02-14
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Originally Posted by shockgiga
I'm being facetious here.
hardware is nokia's pride. they make the most beautiful and well built handsets. outsourcing the job will mean losing their legacy.
as for software. (if it is not yet obvious to you), it speaks very well for itself.
In truth, what is obvious to me is that in the cellphone market today, there are three hot names -- Apple (a company that designs all hardware and software internally), Google (a company almost purely devoted to software), and Microsoft (another company almost purely devoted to software). Of all the cellphones on the market, pretty much only Nokias were not under the direct control of these three companies. (Yeah, webos is around there somewhere too.) Today, people don't go looking for a Motorola phone or an HTC phone, they look for an Android phone or a Windows phone. There may be slight differences in the hardware provided by different manufacturers, but only hard-core enthusiasts worry about that; the average end user only wants to make sure they can continue to use all the apps they've bought and enjoy the same user interface.Nokia has just chosen to not be one of the few software companies, and join the rest of the forgettable mass of commodity cellphone manufacturers. This means they will have to try and compete purely on price against the chinese manufacturers on the low end, and hope they can somehow distinguish themselves on the high end against all the other manufacturers producing phones that run exactly the same software in exactly the same manner as their own. A tall order, in my opinion...
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2011-02-15
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
I agree now there is nothing distinguishable going on. Its not like Nokia will be the only guy selling windows right?
I'm being facetious here.
Nokia has just chosen to not be one of the few software companies, and join the rest of the forgettable mass of commodity cellphone manufacturers. This means they will have to try and compete purely on price against the chinese manufacturers on the low end, and hope they can somehow distinguish themselves on the high end against all the other manufacturers producing phones that run exactly the same software in exactly the same manner as their own. A tall order, in my opinion...
I see this as a soulless gutless decision.
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2011-02-15
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#195
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Just from the top of my head: Maya, VLC, Skype, Photoshop.
Now go thank more people that spread MS FUD and post some more of that ******** propaganda
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Now go thank more people that spread MS FUD and post some more of that ******** propaganda
Originally Posted by alcalde
Ballmer did not lay awake at night worrying about a framework primarily used for Linux desktop KDE applications. Can you think of one major piece of software available on Windows, Mac and Linux that was written with Qt? I don't mean an open-source project; I mean a piece of commercial software. Developers were not chomping at the bit ready to port their Windows software to the 2% worldwide desktop Linux market. Windows developers are using things like .NET, not Qt. The Mono project would probably be more of a worry for Ballmer than Qt.
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#196
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what got intel up on it's sleeve? http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/e...meego-but-why/
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Obi-Intel - you are our only hope !
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2011-02-15
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#198
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Originally Posted by alcalde
Nokianomicon? Guess what, we have an ancient one on the loose, straight outta R'lyehmont, and I'm afraid he's going to bring an end to the world: Elophulu has risen.
I'll accede that that's certainly a possibility. Where I would like to disagree though is that at times I feel I have repeated myself in ways that ascend into the inhumanly possible. Please don't ask for explanations, as it involves the use of something called the Nokianomicon....[Unless you're a Lovecraft fan, you won't get it.]
You're with them, I take it? Now I guess I know too much and I'll likely disappear soon.
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Originally Posted by number41
And the Lovecraft love continues...
Nokianomicon? Guess what, we have an ancient one on the loose, straight outta R'lyehmont, and I'm afraid he's going to bring an end to the world: Elophulu has risen.
You're with them, I take it? Now I guess I know too much and I'll likely disappear soon.
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2011-02-15
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Originally Posted by deyons
Maybe you should make your assertions with more clarity than "ZUNE-Fail". Zune is an umbrella brand for several services and devices.
I'm not talking about Zune MarketPlace, I'm talking about the Zune
Hummm lets see, is the ZUNE a Fail?.....Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune
ZUNE 2010 It sales fell more Source:http://www.informationweek.com/news/...2002863&pgno=2
ZUNE=FAIL
ProTip. Don't attack Facts with opinions.
Granted the Zune never took over the market for portable media players. That said, it sold MILLIONS and made LOTS of people very satisfied. Thats hardly a fail.
Furthermore the device itself lead into the marketplace and services that not only continue to this day, but are gaining competitively in marketshare against the leader iTunes. In that sense the device is most certainly not a fail, no matter how many or few physical devices it sold.
Protip I don't like heated arguments, so please start acting like an adult so that I can treat you like one.
I'm not saying Zune is objectively and quantitatively awesome (although I subjectively believe so). I'm just saying its not a failure. The facts support me.
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as for software. (if it is not yet obvious to you), it speaks very well for itself.
I have an N900, N8 & iphone4 (all without contracts). but I'm not a "fan" of them. they're just for communication and fun. nothing more...
I don't need a phone to feel special. And I don't "love" my phone, I love my wife. We use the word "love" in a different and more appropriate context.