Originally Posted by Darius2006

I am subscribed to maemo-developers list
and maemo-org administrators and maemo project manager nominated by Nokia insist on removing .deb packages, replaying them by direct on-line install procedure.

Calling it a virus is the right name as it spreads from respositories server to a computer of a user. It can spread to many computers crashing many Nokia devices.
No procedure is known to me yet to protect Nokia tablets against crashing by live on-line package installation.
My intention is to request Nokia to let tablet users to access and download .deb packages to memory card and have it/them than installed keeping package source still available against any subsequent check procedure.
As long as maemo packages are and kept under development there is a good practice to have all .deb packages open to verification procedure.
Frankly speaking, I don't prefer automated package updates, loosing control over what I install or is installed on a Nokia tablet
and what can or can't crash it.

There is a number of developers seeing no problem in the above procedure, keen to reflash it over and over again.
But there is still a number of end users showing interest in read-made hardware product for intended use not beta testing.

Buying N95 cell phone or iPod touch I expect to use it immediately and without any problems and expect software installation procedure not to crash any of the both.

Nokia tablet is an excellent product for developers.
Unfortunately is not a read-made final market product as long as a package can crash it making it not unusable.

Ok. I am aware Nokia tablet is a compilation of commercial hardware and open source software applications.
Ok.
But I would expect Nokia to provide customers with the same level of quality service provided by Apple to users of iPod touch.

Especially in Europe, some customers pay a lot of money for a new Nokia tablet, almost as much as a new laptop costs in US.

As no support is provided to Nokia tablet customers by Nokia
I would expect Nokia to sell Nokia tablets in Europe at the same price, Nokia tablet is offered on US market.

I risk my every minute using Nokia tablet, a new update to repositories can crash it and make it useless for my intended use , car navigation or some other use.

As no support is provided by a manufacturer, a user should be given the same rights and privileges any other beta tester deserves.

As maemo.org is already a part of Nokia I would like to have one full-time well-paid officer in charge of maemo.org,
providing on-line support, Q&A support, FAQ support to Nokia tablet customers.

I am really afraid, Nokia has lost control over Nokia tablet project, over repositories, making Nokia tablet a lower-quality product vs. iPod touch by Apple.

So calling respositories update procedure , crashing Nokia tablet as a above described, a virus,
I am calling it virus as it really crashes my Nokia tablet and no support, on-line support, no remedy is provided by Nokia at maemo.org
or has been provided by maemo developers list.

Darius

Originally Posted by Serge

Darius2006, are you sure that the problem you had was really caused by bad repository or package update and not something like this bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2006?

In order to prove your point, you need to find a reliable way to reproduce the problem with repositories and post it somewhere, preferably in maemo bugzilla (you may not have time or desire doing this, but making any conclusions based on unconfirmed facts or pure speculations does not make very much sense either). On the other hand, WLAN driver on Nokia 770 using all official versions of OS2006 firmware has a known reproducible problem which can cause damage similar to what you have described (corrupted files).

Originally Posted by technut

If you check Darius2006's history of posting here and in the mail list, you'll see he often goes overboard in his accusations. Too bad, because he may actually have a good point once in a awhile, but it's hard to read past the over-reactions.