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2011-04-20
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Thanks cb22.. any chance of releasing a pre-pre-alpha version to have a look?
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2011-04-20
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Have you seen how the iOS 4 email client works? It's very good, very simple, and very powerful. If you were to borrow from that, most of your design work would be done.
Here's Apple's overview:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/mail.html
Here's a tutorial video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EYO5pRiHhI
Here's Apple's overview:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/mail.html
Here's a tutorial video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EYO5pRiHhI
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2011-04-20
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Originally Posted by daperl
I have - and I'm borrowing ideas from there as well as from Android, and from desktop mail clients. I'm not a designer, and for me the GUI part is boring
Have you seen how the iOS 4 email client works? It's very good, very simple, and very powerful. If you were to borrow from that, most of your design work would be done.
Here's Apple's overview:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/mail.html
Here's a tutorial video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EYO5pRiHhI
the fun bits all happen under the hood.Thanks cb22.. any chance of releasing a pre-pre-alpha version to have a look?
At the moment, you can't even navigate back and fourth, and message reading doesn't work - so it's pretty useless. But I've almost finished on those two, I'd consider it pre-alpha and maybe release a deb for people to mess around with or something. Of course, attaching a large disclaimer
Feel free to poke around the code and let me know what you think in the mean time
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2011-04-20
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First of all, I greatly appreciate the work you're doing here. The email client on Maemo5 has always been a big sore spot for me. It works... just not well.
Will you have keyboard shortcuts? Like R for reply, or N for next unread message. Also being able to select multiple messages and mark them as read? The inability to do this right now is painful for me.
If you have already thought of these things, sorry to bother you!
Will you have keyboard shortcuts? Like R for reply, or N for next unread message. Also being able to select multiple messages and mark them as read? The inability to do this right now is painful for me.
If you have already thought of these things, sorry to bother you!
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2011-04-20
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Originally Posted by tushyd
I haven't - which is why I posted this topic
First of all, I greatly appreciate the work you're doing here. The email client on Maemo5 has always been a big sore spot for me. It works... just not well.
Will you have keyboard shortcuts? Like R for reply, or N for next unread message. Also being able to select multiple messages and mark them as read? The inability to do this right now is painful for me.
If you have already thought of these things, sorry to bother you!
one person can't think of everything themselves! I'll be sure to add it to my todo list (which is at https://github.com/cb22/immoral/issu...esc&state=open )In the mean time - I've uploaded a new video of the current code. Unlike the first one, this is running on proper email downloaded by the daemon component and stored in a SQLite database. I'm quite happy with the speed at which it runs - there are over 500 messages in that test account; all fully threaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OS4zJReyUs
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2011-04-21
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Thanks for the video cb22, it looks really good
Unfortunately, other than possibly testing, I don't think I would be able to contribute much, mostly due to lack of time (as well as lack of experience with Python...)
In any case, you might consider splitting the daemon functionality and the GUI (which you probably have), so that e.g. the GUI might also be able to work with mbox and/or Maildir structures (like pine/alpine or mutt) as well as with the sqlite database.
This way one would use not only your daemon but also offlineimap as a back-end, or the other way around, use your daemon with e.g. alpine as GUI.
I'm not asking you to focus on this now, but maybe you can keep in mind so that it can be implemented in the future without having to re-code everything?
Cheers.
Unfortunately, other than possibly testing, I don't think I would be able to contribute much, mostly due to lack of time (as well as lack of experience with Python...)
In any case, you might consider splitting the daemon functionality and the GUI (which you probably have), so that e.g. the GUI might also be able to work with mbox and/or Maildir structures (like pine/alpine or mutt) as well as with the sqlite database.
This way one would use not only your daemon but also offlineimap as a back-end, or the other way around, use your daemon with e.g. alpine as GUI.
I'm not asking you to focus on this now
, but maybe you can keep in mind so that it can be implemented in the future without having to re-code everything? Cheers.
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2011-04-21
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Originally Posted by reinob
Thanks
Thanks for the video cb22, it looks really good
Unfortunately, other than possibly testing, I don't think I would be able to contribute much, mostly due to lack of time (as well as lack of experience with Python...)
In any case, you might consider splitting the daemon functionality and the GUI (which you probably have), so that e.g. the GUI might also be able to work with mbox and/or Maildir structures (like pine/alpine or mutt) as well as with the sqlite database.
This way one would use not only your daemon but also offlineimap as a back-end, or the other way around, use your daemon with e.g. alpine as GUI.
I'm not asking you to focus on this now
Cheers.
things will be reading for testing soon hopefully - I've got 4 days off from Varsity, so I'll be coding away.Indeed - I love Python (unlike Java, which makes me want to cut myself each time I have to do something moderatly complex) since it makes this so easy, all you need to do is implement a "Store" class, with a few methods, and behind the scenes it can store the messages however it likes.
I chose SQLite since it's very fast - much faster than Python's Maildir support (in my limited testing, admittedly) and it makes full text indexing a breeze. You could always implement a store class that uses Lucene and Maildir if you wanted.
Currently, I'm working on writing a configuration backend, probably the most important thing to do before releasing a pre-alpha for some basic testing
What I haven't really shown off in the videos is the search - in the first video its just a static QML demo, but now full text search is up and running, and I'm quite impressed with the results. Even without threading, you can actually type at a normal speed, and the results populate as you type with only an ever so slight visable delay.
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2011-04-25
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Almost ready to release a (pre) alpha version for testing - pretty much all I need to implement for that is the signaling between the GUI and daemon.
In the meantime:
Video of the new welcome screen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnHd8wqJl0
Video of searching / reading a message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzuiKDXNcvc
I said everything was looking nice and fast - there were over 700 mails in its DB for this test
In the meantime:
Video of the new welcome screen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnHd8wqJl0
Video of searching / reading a message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzuiKDXNcvc
I said everything was looking nice and fast - there were over 700 mails in its DB for this test
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2011-05-02
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Looking great cb22. I can't wait to test it out
GUI - Side:
* Been busy refactoring the QML code into something far more sensible then what I had originally
* I was getting 300 wakeups/30 sec on my GUI while doing nothing, that's down to 1/30 sec
* Startup is actually pretty fast. After stripping out all the unneeded libraries I was loading, and modularizing the QML a bit, I'd say it starts up a little bit faster than Modest. Not bad for a Python app.
* Since sqlite on the N900 is NOT compiled with FTS support, I'm using a different wrapper called APSW, compiled with a static sqlite library. At the moment, this is just chilling in my source tree, I should probably get around to packaging it.
* After disabling OpenGL, everything is much faster. A huge list of emails scrolls with no lag (and no visable tearing?!), transitions are smooth, and all looks good.
* SQLite is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssst. Searching through the FTS is damn quick.
Backend - side:
* The backend is what handles the actual mail sync. It will be running 24/7 as a daemon. It's pretty lean at this point - no GUI dependencies or anything of the sort. I'll probbaly use dbus to signal the GUI when a new message comes in.