No, you are wrong. Pthth

Personally, I would prefer that they don't hardwire one in and instead make it a card or slot radio device you can plug in, so that you can upgrade from one wireless generation to the next or so that you can go from one TelCo to another. A SIM card isn't enough--not every TelCo uses the same radio standards and a SIM card doesn't let you go from, say EDGE to G3. You would need a whole new device if it's integrated.

Myself, I'd rather tether over Bluetooth and use a PHONE form factor for talking on a phone. (Although BT earphones/headphones resolves that as well.) But the important thing to me if not getting stuck with a component of my device that I can't use.

Hahahahah! You're so funny!

Why? Because OO.o isn't made for the tablet. Its too bloated for that. So you use Abiword and Gnumeric as alternative, you live with the slow speed of the application, or you use a remote desktop to a server (which you already use for document editting). If you sit at Starbucks I hope they provide you WLAN access, if not there is 3G (which is a reason I'd like to have 3G).

8 years ago, 8 years ago. Nokia Communicator. Telnet and remote desktop, later PuTTy as well. After receicing SMS had to wake up early saturday morning to do some work on the AS/400. Over GPRS no less!! And this device had 24/7 connectivity. Don't give me any bullocks a mobile device shouldn't have 24/7 connectivity, or not aim at such.

WiMAX isn't rolled out well as we speak, and AFAIK the WiMAX edition is only for US market. Here, WiMAX is only rolled out in Amsterdam while 3G has almost 100% coverage (KPN, Vodafone)! Europe, in general, has good 3G coverage. WiMAX and LTE are new and still competing to see which one will be the next standard.

qole, are you kidding me ?

The N810W is a better convergence device than the N95, hands-down ?

It can make and receive phone calls as easily as the N95 ?

Please explain what you mean because Im always open to learn new things.

As it stands right now though those are the most "imaginary" statements Ive heard in this discusion.

Did you only read the first two sentences of my post?!

It is an amazing convergence device, if you are inside a Wimax coverage area. You can make and receive calls on your N810W using GrandCentral, Gizmo, or Skype, anywhere in the Wimax coverage area.

The problem is that Wimax has only a relatively tiny coverage area.

EDIT: The Wikipedia page is supposedly a "List of Deployed WiMAX Networks" but many of them aren't deployed and many of them aren't strictly WiMAX (like the thing Bell Canada calls "Wimax in Home")

Sorry qole, I didnt read enough. But you also failed to include a camera as a convergence feature that N8XX is lacking. But just the lack of phone and camera capabilities is enough to remove the N8XX from anyones list of a convergence device.

allnameswereout, if you can, get an N95 8Gig. If you can use ATT I would get it because you get 1.3 download speeds for $14.99.

The N96 is just not that much better.
Ive only used up 6 gig and when I need to I move some things off.

I can't imagine how a camera could be considered an important feature. Cellular cameras are bad enough that they aren't even worth shooting with (even my mother's N93i was absolute crap). If I'm gonna take pictures, I'm gonna take pictures, not jpegs that I'll have to cringe at and delete later. :\

Yeah.. I really don't see a camera as a necessary feature in a phone. Maybe with taking pictures of cards and uploading them to evernote. Then again the cell phones I've used usually get near 1 megapixel. But having seen the specs on most camera phones and used an iPhone I still don't see what's the hub bub about a camera phone. I'll take my Canon anyday. I guess it's if you want to take pictures when you see something random.

Then again I'm biased considering I take pictures that are usually 3000x3000 pixels. *shrugs*. I can also record video with it (yay for having big sized SD card slots).But for me my n800 + camera + cell phone works perfectly. I can even take the pictures from the camera and see them on my n800. Portability isn't a problem (n800 + case goes into pocket, cell phone on belt clip). For my camera, my gf bought me this nice camera carrying case that goes over my shoulder. So when I do carry my camera I just use that.

Now if only there were a good photo editing program on there. =P

As for cell phone capability, it would be nice to have it. Though personally not for me. You see I use the n800 for pretty much everything so if I actually needed it to make a phone call.. well I can guarantee you there would be a time where the battery would be dead when I need it.

But everyone's case is different.

Its tough agreeing on whats important in a convergnce device for everyone.

I would just say though that bear essentials are web browser, phone, camera, gps.

Agree, GA. I use a Camera or HD camcorder to take photos. If I'm caught without a camera, I might use the Nokia's built-in camera app to snap something in 640x480 but by no means do I consider it a photo-quality device. More often than not, dedicated hardware INTENDED to serve a purpose tend to serve that purpose well and a 'convergence device' tends to, at best, do only a reasonable job. That's my experience, anyway.