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#91
Guys, the Step 4-5 thing is about introducing the true mobile desktop. In this 4th step, it will find out which and how many consumers want this experience. Also, right now, Maemo is "just a desktop", and not very agile as far as one handed operation, interoperability with the devices up and downstream in terms of usage, etc.

The 5th step will entail refining the mobile desktop's usage for mobility, defining the services that audience wants the most, and integrating Qt to bring all of the Nokia screens, which are featurephones, smartphones, tabletphones (or whatever this new segment will come to be named), smartbooks, and netbooks/desktop PCs, under one development umbrella. It will allow integrating of the paradigm created on all of these venues as a whole into a seamless experience, building on the Nokia/Ovi name, and building new expectations for our personal computing devices.

It is important that S60/Symbian be a focus, because as S30 showed, experiencing peak sales AFTER S30 development stopped, so will S60/Symbian. It already is optimized, while Maemo isn't (see no autorotation of the UI, no focus on one handed usage, no battery optimization). The N900 will be the testbed to make the Harmattan launch completely prepared for the phone environment and active mobile consumer.
And be patient, guys. Maemo Summit will be the real show...
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Originally Posted by mobiledivide View Post
I also don't like how the whole step 4 thing went down, it could have been said in the context of 'look at this amazing device its crazy how much better it is than EVERY OTHER DEVICE out right now' and then talked about how things were only going to get better as development continues on the platform. Instead of essentially telling the mainstream to wait till step 5. I thought that was strange.
Exactly. Nokia is still not so sure about success, even though we have seen positive reviews, they seem to be hedging their bets...perhaps big ships turn slow....
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
If anything, this is that "turning the big ship around" that's been hinted to around these parts. I can't call this "exciting news" but to see more than one phone that I'd consider for use/owning made by Nokia is unprecedented for me. Usually it's the top of the line or near it. Now, there's more than one option that captures my attention.
The same thing happened to me. I was watching the stream and going "the X6 looks really awesome, maybe I'll... oh, wait, the N900 is even more awesome".

And then there's the N97 Mini, which is less exciting, but would still qualify as possible if it weren't for the other two. If the rest of the market feels anything like me, Nokia's market share is not only going to bounce back, but do so through the roof.
 
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I think it is a case of the senior executives not wanting to be associated with a failure or potential failure. However, if Maemo succeeds in the market--trust me they will tell you how they introduced the highly acclaimed new OS at NW09 and smile very sincerely. Kinda like this...
 

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I have one question:
Skype seems built into the software "Phone", impossible to remove Skype?

When we know that Skype scan the Web browser favorites
 
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Originally Posted by korbé View Post
I have one question:
Skype seems built into the software "Phone", impossible to remove Skype?

When we know that Skype scan the Web browser favorites
Where do you get that from? Perhaps that's behavior on the desktop side, but I've never heard of it before.
 

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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
Where do you get that from? Perhaps that's behavior on the desktop side, but I've never heard of it before.
Here: http://maemo.org/community/council/t...y_perspective/
 
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The Phone UI shows you the services you have enabled. No Skype account activated means no Skype visible as an option. Same for Jabber, GTalk, SIP... and cellular if you haven't inserted a SIM card.
 

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Originally Posted by korbé View Post
Here: http://maemo.org/community/council/t...y_perspective/
No, that's not what I'm talking about. He says nothing at all about Skype scanning your web browser favorites. Where did you get that from?
 

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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
No, that's not what I'm talking about. He says nothing at all about Skype scanning your web browser favorites. Where did you get that from?
Ah, that?

simply with
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An article in french here (sorry for this language): http://blog.philpep.org/post/2008/12...s-veut-du-bien

@qgil: Yes, but you can make a Skype call from the Phone UI. Skype is built into Maemo? This is not an independent and uninstalled software like in 4 Maemo?

For those who were tested on N900 with headphones: What is the sound quality? No little "shhhh" as on the N810?

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