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#91
Originally Posted by Peet View Post
For example, why don't they simply waive the bloody hurdle fees and other unnecessary hoops initially in order to attract developers and help them stay afloat while the userbase of the new platform is still relatively small??
Yes, this would be the most reasonable thing to do. IMO the commercial software development starts seriously when more Maemo devices gets published.

Originally Posted by Peet View Post
Sure... what we all need is yet another revenue sucker in the supply chain, and this would obviously necessitate having a limited number or even exclusive "service providers" in each geography. And all these additional steps will need to feed the required swarms of hungry lawyers and pencilpushers/managers managing the numerous (?) micropayment streams...
Well, not saying this is the ideal way of doing things, but it has proved its success as a payment method. Credit cards are not cheap, so what's the difference with their commission compared to this? I agree that this kind of deals leads to exclusive service provider sivuations.

Bottom line, I'm not suggesting anything in the previous post, just guessing Nokia's motivation and next moves.
 
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#92
Originally Posted by range View Post
Ummm. As said before: There are the maemo.org repositories for your applications. OVI is not needed to publish your applications for this device and never has been for pusblishing applications for devices which came before the N900.
The topic is commercial software.
 
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#93
Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
The topic is commercial software.
The topic is non-free, closed-source, dead-end proprietary software. The point is that it's hardly a loss to the (free, open, community, etc.) Maemo if app developers are pushed in the direction of submitting to Maemo, rather than casually carrying on with proprietary business-as-usual.
 
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#94
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Then, when/if you unsuspectingly click an application's download button, suddenly you get the elusive Extras repo enabled in the background.
i thought extras is gonna be enabled by default in production devices?

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#95
Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
The topic is commercial software.
Even though there is a big push for Ovi, don't forget that you CAN distribute commercial software through the non-free section of Extras or private repositories. Nokia worked hard to avoid this, and for a good reason, but if the Ovi team can't get their act to together RSN, that's exactly what's going to happen.
 

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Originally Posted by ewan View Post
The topic is non-free, closed-source, dead-end proprietary software. The point is that it's hardly a loss to the (free, open, community, etc.) Maemo if app developers are pushed in the direction of submitting to Maemo, rather than casually carrying on with proprietary business-as-usual.
The point is that people like code177 want to be able to write and sell dead-end proprietary software, and that it's a bad business decision by Nokia to shut out these kind of developers.

I agree that it would be better if everyone starts submitting to the Maemo repository, but many developers want to make money with the software they write. So it's a legitimate claim.
 
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Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
i thought extras is gonna be enabled by default in production devices?

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That's good news, indeed. Can anyone with a production device confirm ?
 
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Hmm maybe if the solution is a 3rd party store where developers put their apps collectively then someone can create an app store interface and put it into extras? That way if people who don't know about maemo.org but have extras will see a program called "app store"
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If the Ovi Store fails due to the lack of insight in policies like this, then in my opinion, it deserves to fail.

It is strange how such policies reflect a sense of grandeur that IMO is not something Ovi can claim a right for, yet.
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#100
Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
If the Ovi Store fails due to the lack of insight in policies like this, then in my opinion, it deserves to fail.

It is strange how such policies reflect a sense of grandeur that IMO is not something Ovi can claim a right for, yet.
I think the (probably obsolete) dicho for this is "Too big for their britches." (pants)

Mention was made of distributing through the non-free repo. How would that actually work for commercial software?
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