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Megacrazy is offline Megacrazy
2009-11-24 , 20:09
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#91
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
That helpfulness quickly goes away when your idea of trying to get help or support comes from insulting the device other people like. You'll find that on any community, heck I can go to an iPhone board right now, start a thread called "iPhone - Yes, it sucks," and you will get the same result. You'll see that with nearly anything.

How should this topic have been started?

Title: Jerky, weird scrolling browser (browser lag, or something like that).

Post: Talk about what your seeing (e.g. the jerky weird scrolling behavior), ask if anybody else has this issue. And if necessary post a picture and video to help explain the issue.

Yelling about how it sucks and how it's inferior other devices isn't going help you out at all.
No but it does provide some entertainment. Also, it's the truth. Complaining about a jerky browser that nobody here will be able to solve is pretty much pointless. On the other hand, this thread might help some people decide if they should buy this or not.
 
twaelti is offline twaelti
2009-11-24 , 20:10
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#92
a) It's not a phone
b) Music Player takes up to 25% of the CPU. Application Manager can use quite a lot of resources, too.
c) My N900 sometimes gets very slow and pretty unusable, so I have to reboot (probably memory/swapping or Tracker running amok or whatever). Had once a phone call hang the device. But then: pre-production unit and firmware, abused by installing dozens of apps from extras-devel and hacking around endlessly. 2500 songs, 1000 pictures, 48 GB of memory :-)
d) If the browser gets slow, it can well be because of multiple flash containers in a page or similar hyperloaded webpages. On average news sites, I never ever had a problem.

Come on, nothing is perfect, but file bugs in bugzilla and help Nokia make this thing even better. For me, after 6 weeks of intense use, it's still the JESUS-Comcomcom (Compact communication computer) :-)
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Bratag is offline Bratag
2009-11-24 , 20:14
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#93
Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post
No but it does provide some entertainment. Also, it's the truth. Complaining about a jerky browser that nobody here will be able to solve is pretty much pointless. On the other hand, this thread might help some people decide if they should buy this or not.
Didnt really give the community a chance to try did you - good luck with that, congratulations on wasting your money
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Laughing Man is offline Laughing Man
2009-11-24 , 20:15
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#94
Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
Then you should get the G1 - it's significantly cheaper and it can do what you require. Heck, you can get an S60 phone and a full blown Linux netbook for a combined price that's cheaper than the N900.

If that is all the N900 is, Nokia needs to change its advertising because the N900 overview, features, and specifications pages seem to describe a great phone that is also a very smart phone.
I believe Bratag already had a G1. And the S60 + a netbook solution doesn't work when your goal is to reduce the amount of devices carried, not increase. =P. If that were the case I would have already gotten an Android phone + Linux netbook.

And yes I do think Nokia needs to change their advertising.

Originally Posted by Megacrazy View Post
No but it does provide some entertainment. Also, it's the truth. Complaining about a jerky browser that nobody here will be able to solve is pretty much pointless. On the other hand, this thread might help some people decide if they should buy this or not.
You can at least get troubleshooting help, and if it really is an issue with the n900 (considering others haven't really reported jerky browser issues) and not your particular unit, we can get it into bugzilla and vote it up so ideally it'll be fixed by Nokia quickly.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
DaveP1 is offline DaveP1
2009-11-24 , 20:18
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#95
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
That helpfulness quickly goes away when your idea of trying to get help or support comes from insulting the device other people like. You'll find that on any community, heck I can go to an iPhone board right now, start a thread called "iPhone - Yes, it sucks," and you will get the same result. You'll see that with nearly anything.
True, but try to turn the other cheek.

Remember that some of the disgruntled who come here will have just dropped around $500 on what they thought was going to be the greatest phone in the history of creation (or, at least, in the history of Nokia) and, at least in their minds, it isn't. This may be where they come to vent.

If they're venting about something that is scheduled to be fixed (or a missing app), tell them it's on the future release list. If they're venting about some issue that needs a bug report, ask them to file one or, better yet, help them file one. Don't just attack back.
 

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2009-11-24 , 20:19
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#96
I'll give up smooth scrolling in the browser so that I can run 50+ apps at the same time any day of the week - but I almost always have smooth scrolling in the web browser even when playing music anyways.

If the transitions bother you so much, turn them off completely then.

Also, remember, this is not the 5th and final step in Maemo's evolution. The 5th step is supposed to be what ends up competing with stuff like the iPhone, not the N900. So everything that would go into always making scrolling super smooth and other presentation bits are going to be concentrated at that point, not as much for Maemo 5.
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2009-11-24 , 20:22
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#97
Originally Posted by rcs1000 View Post
Have you noticed something slightly strange about all the people saying 'The N900 is garbage' - none of them seem to want to sell their phone, even though they will be offered a big premium to what they paid.

Now, I would love to get my hands on the N900. I *love* the N810 and the N800. I'm very happy with a Linux command line, and I think that before long most of the debian and Ubuntu repositiories will be available on my phone.

To me, that *is* megacool.

So, come on N900 haters, sell me your N900.
I also do like Nokia!!! An I also have some complains about it.
How nokia can release mega cool phone leaving all simple futures that any boolshit phone had it 5 years ago? That is what i do not understand.
I remember some one said, "com one Nokia give us our phone! We do not care if it has bugs." Can you imagine how many complains would be made if they did it?
Even if they had problems with software it is not an excuse to leave out all simple futures.
I think they can not do it.
I am waiting for my preorder and i am not going to cancel my order.
 
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2009-11-24 , 20:25
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#98
One tip about the scrolling: the kinetic scrolling on the N900 can go VERY fast if you "kick" it the right way. Learn to scroll in a large list (such as the apps with -test and -devel enabled) - I can kick through with two swipes :-)
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Laughing Man is offline Laughing Man
2009-11-24 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
True, but try to turn the other cheek.
Haha I'm very bad at that. I'm the sort of person where if you **** me off enough, I'll fight back and then kick you in the balls for good measure. Luckily it takes alot to **** me off. (or little if I've been having a very very bad day).

Though it's interesting how martial arts temper your anger, you get knocked down to the ground alot so at some point you just stop getting angry about being knocked around.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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2009-11-24 , 20:32
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#100
Seems like I made the right choice waiting cause:
1) No ATT 3G
2) No sync and older apps won't work? So GPE suite is out of the question. Ermining out.
3) No MaemoMapper <--- absolute dealbreaker.

So I'll be waiting for a price drop and/or GPE and Maemomapper ports or equivalents but if someone has an 810 they'll part with for a decent price...well..a low price..I'll probably bite that to get the keyboard.
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