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ssjtoma is offline ssjtoma
2010-01-05 , 21:51
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#91
I feel like Nokia's Maemo team is very small compared to Google's Android team. Look at Nokia's product line - Maemo is only on a handful of them. Nokia needs to assign a lot more people to work on Maemo but I have to say, the team that works on it right now is very dedicated to deliver quality for us. And for that I'm very thankful. I can just hope Maemo will gain enough momentum to stay around for a long time =)
 
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2010-01-05 , 21:53
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
With the n800 that was fine, cause I could still use my cheap free cell phone to receive calls or make a call if I ever needed to. With the N900 if I use it as much as I used the n800 I find myself with the inability to receive calls or make them (on the rare occasion that I do). =P
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2010-01-05 , 21:54
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
The problem fatalsaint is if you try to use the N900 as you did the n800 you'll find you'll find yourself with a dead battery very soon.

The battery life is nice on the N900 (I've only had it shorten on me after I installed a few questionable apps but I'm to lazy to diagnose it right now). But if I played with it as often as I did with my n800 I would need an extra battery or one of those rejuicers. With the n800 that was fine, cause I could still use my cheap free cell phone to receive calls or make a call if I ever needed to. With the N900 if I use it as much as I used the n800 I find myself with the inability to receive calls or make them (on the rare occasion that I do). =P



The only problem with that is telcos don't want you to have the not-tough-to-access control panel.
The battery life I am truly interested in. I have seen people on this forum go from several days to several hours. My N810 lasted near 7 hours of *active* use and lasted several days if left to it's own devices.

My Android phone (g1) - If I use it *at all* during the day except for the occasional phone call.. it will not make it. I literally keep a charger at my desk at work, and a charger at home. I cannot make it 0730 to 1700 with my android if I play with it. Frustrating.

So when I get an N900 I will be testing the battery thoroughly. It *has* to be better than this G1.
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Yes but it didn't have the *hardware*. There was no point. And also no movement in this direction because... Why?
If I admit I have no clue, do I lose points? Seriously, the N900 going to a phone platform befuddled me. It no longer does, since it's an actualized product; but at first I just wanted a new tablet.

Ok, now... I still want just a tablet.

Yes, and this was why I argued in the other thread that Android was decent in this regard that once you have an app working on android it'll work. So long as they stick with Delvik VM. But that right there is a killer.. since the overhead is so high.
It can be optimized. I'm almost willing to bet that's going to be the focus for the next few iterations.

On what?? The N900 hasn't been out since June has it?
Didn't mean to be ambiguous here. I'm talking about the iPhone. Before that, it was a year for the other firmware updates. Once a year is the norm for waiting for firmware updates for me right now.

All true. Nokia should hold a "Maemo Developers Contest" or something. But this still doesn't reflect negatively on the device, or the OS. Having a lack of third party is directly related to number of users - or money.
I swear I either tweeted about it, or stated it here... Nokia needs a "Summer of Code" type of come together. This assumes it doesn't already exist... which again I might be very wrong.

This is my hope.. not that I care. I don't think I'll need Ovi Store.. GPS *is* useful though. I don't have an N900 so I don't know if it's "good enough" for me or not. But it's not a dealbreaker for me by any means.
To be honest, I agree. OVI is not a dealbreaker for me either, but it's a sticking point that shows me that some things were not planned out fully. Same could be said about when the iPhone first came out too. So the similarities and possibilities for OVI and the N900 are hopefully as high in regards to a fair comparison to the iPhone and iTunes Music Store.

Let's see.
 

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2010-01-05 , 21:54
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Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
My only problem with Android is the complete lack of standardization across hardware. Google need to pull their finger out and start enforcing some consistency or its going to be a market place full of apps that only run on one phone. Seriously - when a phone maker can just arbitrarily decide to remove a standard intent (basically an API method) then there is something ve.ry wrong.

Now that being said - Google did provide a very well documented API and a bunch of examples, things I would give my eye teeth for when coding for maemo' and please don't tell me they are there if I search - having to go to 5 different sites and 5 different logins to find even basic examples/walkthroughs/docs is beyond ridiculous. If nothing else Nokia need to organize that aspect of the platform
Google announced today they are adding apps2sd into the framework. Question is how long this takes to actually happen.
 
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2010-01-05 , 21:55
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Originally Posted by ssjtoma View Post
I feel like Nokia's Maemo team is very small compared to Google's Android team. Look at Nokia's product line - Maemo is only on a handful of them. Nokia needs to assign a lot more people to work on Maemo but I have to say, the team that works on it right now is very dedicated to deliver quality for us. And for that I'm very thankful. I can just hope Maemo will gain enough momentum to stay around for a long time =)
Being thankful for their dedication, yes. Being thankful for a small team dedicated to your platform of choice is myopic and masochistic. This probably speaks volumes about the wisdom of Nokia's management and their ability to obtain goals.
 
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2010-01-05 , 21:57
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Originally Posted by ssjtoma View Post
I feel like Nokia's Maemo team is very small compared to Google's Android team. Look at Nokia's product line - Maemo is only on a handful of them. Nokia needs to assign a lot more people to work on Maemo but I have to say, the team that works on it right now is very dedicated to deliver quality for us. And for that I'm very thankful. I can just hope Maemo will gain enough momentum to stay around for a long time =)
Hopefully they ensure no s60 v5 GUI designer never goes near Maemo. s60 v5 UI makes no common sense whatsoever! the OK/Cancel button takes up 20% of the screen space in a running app. WTF?
 

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Originally Posted by Rushmore View Post
Google announced today they are adding apps2sd into the framework. Question is how long this takes to actually happen.
Lol they said that same kind of thing the day the G1 was released as well. Don't know about you but I had to root my phone and tweak it to get apps on the sd
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2010-01-05 , 22:00
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Ahh.. Someone always snaps because a firmware is little late.
When it's out, i think this thread will be quite for some time.. for ex. until the next firmware.
 
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2010-01-05 , 22:03
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
The problem fatalsaint is if you try to use the N900 as you did the n800 you'll find you'll find yourself with a dead battery very soon.

The battery life is nice on the N900 (I've only had it shorten on me after I installed a few questionable apps but I'm to lazy to diagnose it right now). But if I played with it as often as I did with my n800 I would need an extra battery or one of those rejuicers. With the n800 that was fine, cause I could still use my cheap free cell phone to receive calls or make a call if I ever needed to. With the N900 if I use it as much as I used the n800 I find myself with the inability to receive calls or make them (on the rare occasion that I do). =P

The only problem with that is telcos don't want you to have the not-tough-to-access control panel.
No US telco will subsidize the N900, so that doesn't matter to me. I have no idea if it would even work with TMobile data here.

So the 900 has bad battery life compared to the 800? That's worrying. I like my n800 but any sustained network or downloading use of it kills the battery in seconds (e.g. gpodder), so I plug it in when doing that first.
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