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2010-11-15 , 17:23
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#91
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
You are of the false opinion
Opinions cannot be false, they are opinion and are subjective and therefore have no right or wrong in terms of correctness.
The facts within those opinions however can be false. If the opinion were false it would not exist.

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
I don't care what you think.
Nor I you.

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
fMMS is an app like millions of other apps.
Except it cost you nothing and was made in a guys spare time for a bit of fun and to help some people out.

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I have never met frals,
I'd keep it that way, as by this point, if I were frals, I'd be pretty pissed off!


Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
To me fMMS suck.
To paraphrase you:
Your opinion is wrong!


Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
It suck because
No, it doesn't suck, it has neither the physical capability or (I'm sure) the desire to.

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
So, if you (or anyone else) have no clue of what I am talking about, as it is obvious that you don't have, then why bother?
So far you've been babbling on for 10 pages, yet you have yet to actually explain what you want and what, in your opinion, fMMS is missing.

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Is there something with frals I don't know about? I just wondering because you act like babies for no reason.
No, we're defending a guy's (very appreciated) hard work, which you seem intent on belittling.

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
What about Ovi maps with no turn by turn voice navigation, is that OK as well? are you satisfied with that crippled functionality as well?
Not really, for this reason I bought sygic, which is fantastic btw.

Come on, at least explain what you want fMMS to do. If you cant be bothered then why should frals bother to help you?!
 
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2010-11-15 , 17:31
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#92
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
LOL this community is incapable of fixing anything. When any poor newbee comes here and ask a question, he is met with a horde of 'community nazis' yelling: tried google? have you seen the search facility - use it - this has been answered SO many times! and the favorite: go to Nokia with your whining. I mean, this community is completely ignorant about basic MMS fumctionality, the community doesn't have a clue. This thread proves that point all too well. If anything this community is only a bunch of slightly over sensitive fanboys
I've never had any problem getting help on a number of subjects. Nine times out of ten i manage to find answers myself by searching, but when i cant and my question is not a dumb lazy repeat of something thats been asked a thousand times i've found the community here nothing but helpfull.
A bit of good manners and respect will get you a long way, not only here but everywhere in life.
Where as bad manners and *****ing at people will get you absolutely nothing.

Just out of interest how old are you ericson?
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2010-11-16 , 05:26
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#93
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Sure. I had a simple question about an alternative to an existing app I don't like. You got all wired up and loosing it completely because of the word 'suck' used on a community app that doesn't perform half of what it should do according to its name. Evil me, evil me. You are a funny bunch for sure.
above is a foolproof evidence that you really suck with understanding.

for getting an alternative, one would have to either rewrite the whole mms core stuff or ask frals permission to use fmms's core stuff.

....or then he would have to know what is it that you really want from a mms application in order to suggest a patch to fmms. all that blabbering and not a single sentence that would clearly imply what you are after.
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2010-11-16 , 05:46
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#94
Whole argument is non-sense. Basic's

1. No Fral work = no mms at all on the N900. Limited, feature poor whatever ... its all better than nothing.

2. You have that serious an opinion, buck up and make some code changes yourself, otherwise appreciate whats out there and if not learn to ask in the right way for an alternative.

I for one bought the device knowing mms was not a nokia included option, Fral made it possible from his own efforts and so enriched the use of the phone a small bit for users like me. If mms features are so crucial to you, perhaps its time to ebay the n900 and move on.
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2010-11-16 , 05:53
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Sure. I had a simple question about an alternative to an existing app I don't like. You got all wired up and loosing it completely because of the word 'suck' used on a community app that doesn't perform half of what it should do according to its name. Evil me, evil me. You are a funny bunch for sure.
I've been debating over the last 10 pages or so whether to get involved in this or not...

I don't think it's so much people thinking you are evil. It's rather your tone about it. It's one thing to say "fMMS would be better if it did such and such" but rather you come out and say it sucks (over and over again without saying why).

Frals built fMMS with his own time and effort for absolutely no profit. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Does it more than fulfill the needs of typical MMS use? Yes it does. Not to mention the fact that it is continually being developed and improved upon.

Keep in mind that it took Apple with their entire development team OVER TWO YEARS to bring basic MMS functionality to the iPhone.

It's obviously no use arguing back and forth. I am sure you are a nice guy. I am betting however that if some third-party company came up with the absolute end-all-and-be-all MMS application for the N900 and decided to sell it in the Ovi store, you would still complain because they were charging for it.

In fact, my only wish list item for fMMS is the ability to attach more than one item to a message and I have a feeling it will only be a matter of time before that is in place as well.

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2010-11-16 , 07:27
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
for getting an alternative, one would have to either rewrite the whole mms core stuff or ask frals permission to use fmms's core stuff...
Look through the thread. Did I ever ask for an improved fMMS? Did I ever ask for someone to make a better MMS app? No, I asked if someone else already is working on one, because fMMS, IMO, sucks. Read the above sentences a couple of times.

I have explained over and over why it sucks, and i have explained over and over what it doesn't include of core functionality. I am still very puzzled as to why all of you here seem to be satisfied with fMMS even though it cannot be used for most of the things people use MMS for. I can only conclude now that you don't really use MMS, and have never done so, and that includes frals.

In short, am I looking for an improved fMMS - no. Do I want someone else to start working on a new MMS app - no - I really don't care. The N900 is old, I have had mine for more than a year, and it is all too obvious by now that the N900 will not get a working MMS app before I get a new phone. If someone else already was working on one there would be a slight possibility but not now.
 
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2010-11-16 , 08:31
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Look through the thread. Did I ever ask for an improved fMMS? Did I ever ask for someone to make a better MMS app? No, I asked if someone else already is working on one, because fMMS, IMO, sucks. Read the above sentences a couple of times.

I have explained over and over why it sucks, and i have explained over and over what it doesn't include of core functionality. I am still very puzzled as to why all of you here seem to be satisfied with fMMS even though it cannot be used for most of the things people use MMS for. I can only conclude now that you don't really use MMS, and have never done so, and that includes frals.
We have all looked through the thread multiple times and you have had plenty of solid retorts to your limited arguments. You have stated time after time that fMMS "sucks" because it lacks "core functionality" of any basic "MMS app from dumbphones". You have categorically not substantiated any of your arguments with solid basis other than the application lacking functionality that you deem to be "core"and you have simply belittled the hard work frals put into an app (yes, it is an app and will not be integrated into conversations as conversations are closed source, ossipena cannot hack into it with VertSMS and I doubt frals, with all his technical know-how can do it either), and not only belittled but also openly insulted his efforts through your basic and crude use of language.

If anything your use of language and basic communication skills suck, and I say that purely on the basis of one human being speaking to another. I am not a fanboi, matter of fact I find the N900 infuriating in many ways because it does lack basic functionality that I have been used to on all the other top end phones I have owned, but I certainly do not come to this community and whinge and ***** about them, rather I do the research and learn about what options there are for increasing the pleasure of my user experience.

Agreed, you have told us what functionality you desire to be incorporated into fMMS and no doubt frals, being the kinda guy he is, has taken it on board and is potentially thinking about how to integrate that into the code, but the way that you initially communicated your feelings for this free application developed by a guy in his spare time for users to have BASIC MMS FUNCTIONALITY was, quite simply, sucky.

And finally, your opinion, if continually communicated in this fashion, also sucks, and I wish someone else would tell you what your opinion was before you went spouting off the way you do.

Now, go and buy yourself a Sony Ericsson. At least, I guess that's where the name comes from. Run along now.
 
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2010-11-16 , 09:29
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#98
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Look through the thread. Did I ever ask for an improved fMMS? Did I ever ask for someone to make a better MMS app? No, I asked if someone else already is working on one, because fMMS, IMO, sucks. Read the above sentences a couple of times.
what did I just say about your abitily of understanding? it applies straight here...


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I can only conclude now that you don't really use MMS, and have never done so, and that includes frals.
I can conclude that you are a stupid idiot with real problems @ home.

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In short, am I looking for an improved fMMS - no. Do I want someone else to start working on a new MMS app - no - I really don't care.
and the point of this thread is only bash fMMS for some random reason?

are you on drugs or something because you aren't making any sense since the first post in this thread.
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2010-11-16 , 09:52
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#99
I wasn't going to reply to this thead, but I would say that the most used MMS-feature would be sending pictures taken with the phone, and that works fine with fmms (and more).
I would also like to thank frals, for his hard work on fmms.

@ericsson: as many have told you, you need to think of what language you use, when talking to people. This thread wouldn't probably have ended up in this way, if you would have choosen your wording better.

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2010-11-16 , 09:56
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#100
I think its now time we left this poor misguided child alone,
its not his fault that puberty is so hard and the whole world is against him.
We are not going to change his opinion, so i suggest we we all make a personal not that ericson is not worth our time or effort to argue with in any future whining threads he may start and do the worst thing anyone can do to a badly behaved child and
ignore him
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