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#91
Originally Posted by SamGan View Post
Somebody in Nokia should write an open letter to Elop and say, "Hey Elop, your WP7 platform is burning!"
Maybe somebody from us, the admin,mod would gather votes from people registered in this forum and will send them to the Nokia. How many of maemo lovers are there ? Let them hear us. Come on, can we make something useful from this conversation?
 
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#92
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
[...]

1) Launch Earlier (October 2011)
2) Cheaper (Undercut the iPhone by $150)
3) Differentiating Factor (SwipeUI with the Windows Capacitive keys becoming on-screen)
4) Two versions (small 3.7inch with 1600mAh) and (large 4.7inch with 1800mAh)
5) No software issues (battery drain, gps etc everything working perfectly)
6) Beefier Specs (1.5GHz Snapdragon, 700MB RAM, 64GB NAND)
7) Current Features (LTE, NFC, Carl Zeiss, Gyro, Barometre, GLONASS)
8) Display (WVGA with RGB-AMOLED ClearBlack)

[...]
that's the world according to... S.Bllamer, right?

here is how the world really looks...
1) three months earlier, WP was acknowledged a sunk platform (why bother?)
2) why? we want FAT margins too!
3) NOOOOOO WAY! everything has to look the same way, m$ way
4) you mean... the client versus the server? that's what we have two versions for, right?
5) we never have (software) issues! it is ALWAYS the fault of the manufacturer; especially when their products work perfectly with other software’s!
6) see previous point! those sloppy minions NEVER get it right, do they?
7) oooo, come on! let others bother with that! we just do things the old way, how we know how to do it
8) Yes, yes, very good point. display IS important, isn't it?

soooo sorry, the world is not UP to your standards
 
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#93
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
[...]

1 Launch Earlier - October 2011
2 Cheaper - Undercut the iPhone by $150
3 Differentiating Factor - SwipeUI and on-screen Windows keys
4 Two models - small 3.7inch with 1600mAh and large 4.7inch with 1800mAh
5 No software issues - battery drain, gps etc etc everything working perfectly
6 Beefier Specs - 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 700MB RAM, 64GB NAND
7 Current Features - LTE, NFC, Carl Zeiss, Gyro, Barometre, GLONASS
8 Display - WVGA with RGB-AMOLED ClearBlack

[...]
Lol misterc you troll. It's not like those criteria are impossible to meet, let alone hard.

In fact, if I was Nokia and I was burning away my two strategic ecosystems for M$...in return I would use my 'ability' to customize my phone to beat the competitors (WP) and match the market standard (GSII/4S).
 
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#94
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Lol misterc you troll. It's not like those criteria are impossible to meet, let alone hard.

In fact, if I was Nokia and I was burning away my two strategic ecosystems for M$...in return I would use my 'ability' to customize my phone to beat the competitors (WP) and match the market standard (GSII/4S).
You always seem to forget that the contract clearly states: Kangal cannot screw over the first party*






*MS and OEMs
 
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#95
Originally Posted by ibrakalifa View Post
i know for sure, are you think its fair enough the price of single core with 2years old is almost same with newest chipset dualcore??, sorry just asking,
A lot of resources went into development of Maemo 6 and N9's design to suit the OS. Other parts inside drive the cost even more. SoC, 2 year old or not, is doing the job flawlessly inside the N9 and that's what you pay for, the perfect UX.

Also, do keep in mind that since Elop arrived at Nokia, his whole purpose was to drag away sales from the N9 and get as much money back as possible spent in R&D. There were 2 ready devices and only one released and Nokia was in drought for a year. Even with the high price, the phone experience positive reception, and is selling like a fat kid eating at McDonald's. Nobody gives a crap if it runs a 2 year old chipset if all is flawless and unique.
 
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#96
Originally Posted by patlak View Post
A lot of resources went into development of Maemo 6 and N9's design to suit the OS. Other parts inside drive the cost even more. SoC, 2 year old or not, is doing the job flawlessly inside the N9 and that's what you pay for, the perfect UX.

Also, do keep in mind that since Elop arrived at Nokia, his whole purpose was to drag away sales from the N9 and get as much money back as possible spent in R&D. There were 2 ready devices and only one released and Nokia was in drought for a year. Even with the high price, the phone experience positive reception, and is selling like a fat kid eating at McDonald's. Nobody gives a crap if it runs a 2 year old chipset if all is flawless and unique.
Patlak, pardon the question if it is that obvious (i.e., 2nd device being N950?) but which 2nd device are you talking about (if not N950)?

(my understanding was that decision to stop production of the N950 had been taken already in 2010 following problems with the keyboard mechanism, thus prior to Flopocalipse)
 
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#97
Originally Posted by misterc View Post
Patlak, pardon the question if it is that obvious (i.e., 2nd device being N950?) but which 2nd device are you talking about (if not N950)?

(my understanding was that decision to stop production of the N950 had been taken already in 2010 following problems with the keyboard mechanism, thus prior to Flopocalipse)
Yes, I'm talking about the N950 which actually is the first device. I doubt there were slider problems, it's using the N97, E7 mechanism, which is simple and difficult to screw up. Maybe someone with a N950 can tell us if there really is a problem stopping mass production. Even if there was an issue, it would be easier and cheaper to fix it than build a whole WP device from scratch.
 
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#98
I've never believed the slider issue (if indeed it even exists) was the real reason for not releasing the N950 as a mass-market device.
 
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#99
Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Yes, I'm talking about the N950 which actually is the first device. I doubt there were slider problems, it's using the N97, E7 mechanism, which is simple and difficult to screw up. Maybe someone with a N950 can tell us if there really is a problem stopping mass production. Even if there was an issue, it would be easier and cheaper to fix it than build a whole WP device from scratch.
[sarcasm]You don't know what you're talking about WP has a growing ecosystem 3 million new developers have joined since the deal with MS and they have added 10 M new apps. WP has the third ecosystem. So what if noone give a flying f*** about it, it will become the first ecosystem with 100 times more apps then users. How awesome is that? Where's your android and iOS now huh??[/sarcasm]
 
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#100
Windows Phone ⅞ rocks!
 
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