I was referencing the announcement about email integration... I don't use email from the forum so I'm good.

Aside from the possibility of not including Ubuntu/BBX, + Tizen/FFOS/OWebOS in "Alternatives".
What are you criticisms (if any) of current layout suggestions? e.g. one here.

No, no criticism, I admit I haven't given much attention to the proposals as every other post has one. I'm just saying that if you guys agree to ~3 well defined candidates it'll be much easier to present a case to council and tmo administrators for consideration. If I have the material I can help bring this up and start a discussion, but I don't have the time to check and comment on aspects like which sub goes where.

The first comment, was just in favor of a simpler structure, but that's just me.

One last point is that I'm against changing site name for reasons which have been mostly covered above by other people.

I don't think there's too many more dramatically different ways one could lay-it-out, but I'd welcome layouts from others.
I do feel it's unwise not to at least include MeR derivatives at this point, once the migration has had time to settle-down ofc.

I'm all for simplicity too, that's what I was aiming for in my (rough) lay-out...

Yeah that's not in the scope of this thread, I've made my point fairly clear there, but there needs to be a more in-depth & well-informed discussion in 6mth+.
We need to know much more about where the industry's really at before careful debate/assessment makes sense.

At least new forum sections for :

1) Mer + derivatives (Nemo Mobile, Sailfish, Plasma Active, etc)

2) Ubuntu Phone

The official SDK releases for Sailfish and Ubuntu Phone are iminent (in some weeks), so Qt/Qt Quick/Python developers (from Maemo/MeeGo Harmattan) need ASAP a familiar space to share info, experiences, etc.

Regarding Mer, it would be good to have a structure with top Mer section, and specific subsections (Nemo, Sailfish and PlasmaActive for now).

At least if the forum allows such thing. Since some topics can be Mer generic (like for example adding community repositories and libraries), while others will be OS specific (like ironing out issues in each particular OS).

I basically outlined my proposal above, so repeating it here. In addition to existing Maemo and Harmattan sections, add these:

-> Systems
-->> Mer
--->>> Sailfish
--->>> Nemo Mobile
--->>> Plasma Active
-->> Ubuntu Mobile
-->> Other
...
If that's not possible, and the forum supports only one level of hierarchy, then something like this would make sense:


-> Systems
-->> Mer
-->> Sailfish
-->> Nemo Mobile
-->> Plasma Active
-->> Ubuntu Mobile
-->> Other
...

NOTES:

It's probably better to call the section Ubuntu Mobile as a collective name, since they have now a whole bunch of projects like Ubuntu for Android, Ubuntu for tablets and Ubuntu for phones, and they aren't all the same, so Ubuntu Phone would be too limiting.

Making "Other" section would accommodate for other potential systems of interest (which can even be created tomorrow), and if they'll generate enough activity on their own, they always can be moved to a newly created section. Names like "Competitors" don't make anymore sense in this context IMHO.

As jalyst pointed out - this proposal is not related to any domain name change - it's a separate issue.

Hello folks, days are rough and nights even more.
For now, I added subsections to alternatives.
-- Sailfish
-- Nemo
-- Android

Have fun!

Thank you sir, What about Ubuntu?

How did you came up with these three alternatives?

I also no several threads that fits under android subforum? Would it be appropriate to send a pm to moderators(for the subforum) informing them about the threads så the can be moved?

Android? I don't think it was raised at all in the discussions.
NITdroid maybe but Android makes little sense compared to others.
(one of the main -ROUGH- proposals here)
Anyway, thanks for the preliminary set-up!

How about the rest of issues discussed above? Android wasn't even mentioned in any proposals. "Alternatives" subsection by itself doesn't make sense. It's enough to have OS/Platform one. But thanks for some start! Please add Ubuntu Mobile, Mer and Plasma Active sections when you have a chance (and if possible with Mer being the parent group for Sailfish, Nemo and PA).

And if you go off tangent from Qt centric systems, I think Firefox OS and open WebOS deserve more interest than Android since they are now fully open.