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Kaacz is offline Kaacz
2014-01-24 , 21:34
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nieldk: Now I must use this pages for factory reset (fun with usb0/eth3] - phone not fully started after reboot with your bluez package from openrepos ... maybe will be better remove this package from openrepos .. IMHO Jolla not finished start without BT control .. FYI.
 
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2014-01-24 , 21:56
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Originally Posted by Kaacz View Post
nieldk: Now I must use this pages for factory reset (fun with usb0/eth3] - phone not fully started after reboot with your bluez package from openrepos ... maybe will be better remove this package from openrepos .. IMHO Jolla not finished start without BT control .. FYI.
well well Quite frankly, If your phone is in a bootloop it is not because of the bluez package. Iam using it without problems, I have downgraded, reinstalled, over and over again - without problems.

But, surely, anything can happen with any application.

And, situation being that we have no flashable base image - well, dont do stuff that touches the core functions if the device.
Plenty of things can mess up a working device.

Should I remove from my openrepos? well, perhaps I should delete all my packages from there, and keep ny own local one.

Quite tired of wanba-bees that blame devs for **** they dont know about!
 

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Kaacz is offline Kaacz
2014-01-26 , 02:50
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Originally Posted by nieldk View Post
well well Quite frankly, If your phone is in a bootloop it is not because of the bluez package. Iam using it without problems, I have downgraded, reinstalled, over and over again - without problems.

But, surely, anything can happen with any application.

And, situation being that we have no flashable base image - well, dont do stuff that touches the core functions if the device.
Plenty of things can mess up a working device.

Should I remove from my openrepos? well, perhaps I should delete all my packages from there, and keep ny own local one.

Quite tired of wanba-bees that blame devs for **** they dont know about!
No need to be tired .. Your mc package is "must have" for me ..
I do not blame you of something. I wrote this For Your Info - maybe problem is exist. Maybe not. I write warning - because we don't want any less-experienced owners in this situation - right?

This "thing" with bluez package only need some time:
- after update BT not working .. some libs needed ? => we must do some research.
- i was made only one change before this problem - update bluez => reboot in this state (BT not working) => my device is in boot stuck (not boot loop)
- yes maybe this is problem combination with some other
- yes sad is: we have no easy re-flashable device ..

I will make some next tests ..
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Larswad is offline Larswad
2014-01-26 , 08:04
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#94
Is that a common syndrome or side-effect for some linux-devs, being all touchy and behaving like offended primadonnas? Seen it one too many times here and other forums now.
People ARE greatful for what you great devs here do, but it should be allowed to make comments that indicates problems with the work ffs without getting the evil eye.
 
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2014-01-26 , 08:29
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#95
The major issue is not being able to reflash to stock factory image because of Qualcomm's restrictive practices.

Many problems could be avoided if owners had full control of their own hardware and firmware and so could properly wipe clean and start from fresh.

I appreciate that Jolla have done the best they could in this respect, given previous manufacturers let downs, and have provided a physical device to work with for actual hands on development. Hopefully jPhone2 or 3 will be fully FOSS compliant and free of secret blob firmware.

In the meantime I hope Jolla are lobbying hard to get Qualcomm to relase this code as open source like they already did for ThinkPenquin's WLAN USB dongle. It can be done

Richard
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Larswad is offline Larswad
2014-01-26 , 09:01
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#96
Even if its a blob, why would it prevent jolla to create a flash-image ? obviously they flash the device themselves. Was it this partitioning thing that was troublesome or what. Not really getting this.
 
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richardski is offline richardski
2014-01-28 , 08:27
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#97
It seems to an issue of licence conditions imposed by Qualcomm.

Richard
 
djselbeck is offline djselbeck
2014-01-28 , 08:33
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#98
Perhaps a sticky thread would be useful which advices users to backup their devices with dd and recover the unlocked bootloader.

as there are more and more bricked devices this could prevent at least some users from bricking the fragile Jolla which is easily stuck in bootloop
 
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Jordi is offline Jordi
2014-01-28 , 09:02
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#99
It's not possible to extract the image from a phone?

Silly question? Sorry, noob here
 
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2014-01-28 , 09:12
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#100
it is there is even a guide but it is quite lost in this forum
 

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