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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
Again: uncomparable. Jolla is a drop in the ocean compared to Motorola, and by that mean how big they are as a company.
slower cpu - there i was thinking it was a quad-core vs dual
less ram - there i was thinking they both had a GB
bigger screen with higher resolution and higher quality - what a turn off!
camera - pretty sure the camera is better too now.
there is no such thing as a bad phone, there is such as a thing as a bad price however.
But when it comes to it:
CPU: IIRC, benchmarks showed that both are equal under *normal* circumstances (that is, doing normal stuff like Twitter, web browser, etc.)
RAM: you're right.
Bigger screen with higher resolution: that's personal. I don't like higher resolutions on small screens that much. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
Camera: both are equal in terms of quality, except for HD filming which is a bit better on the Moto G. But I still wouldn't recommend either of them, DLSR all the way.
But I still stand by my first sentence of this post, they're just uncomparable.
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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by vistaus
i agree, the price alone ensures that!
But I still stand by my first sentence of this post, they're just uncomparable.
let me restate: even if the price drops to the indian equivalent of £200, it will still be £66 more expensive than the G2, and inferior hardware to boot.
^ this from a maemo/meego/sailfish fan who has no particular love or respect for android. ^
it needs to sell at the market price... or it won't sell.
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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
European market is flooded with cheap (and not so cheap) rebranded chinese OEM products. The same way as you got Karbonn, Lava, Xolo, Micromax and what not we have, and this is Croatia only, H18, Vivax, Quadro, Forcebook, MeanIT..... Maybe even some more "croatian brands". Then there are Archos, Zopo, NGM, Prestigio, Doogee, THL, Xiaomi, Lenovo, iocean, inew, Gigabyte.............
There's less purchasing power and much more fierce price competition than in Europe .
And all that in the market of about 5 million people.
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2014-09-24
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hi, i am from hyd, india. Hav been lurking around thus forum for so long, but this thread just made me register.
being frm India , i hv to fully agree with ranbaxy, hardy magnus and others from india who have told about the current market in india. you guys are simply arguing with them without knowing what exactly is happening here. No one here including me is willing to pay 16k for an oit dated phone with below par specs. Ranbaxy has just mentioned xiaomi. We have asus zenphone, micromax, karbonn, spice etc which gives us more value for money. No one herr would b ready to spend money on a new os and an average specced phone. I too would say it will b a flop.... people in india think with their brain, not with their heart... They hav no feeling towards sailfish or jolla like the members here
being frm India , i hv to fully agree with ranbaxy, hardy magnus and others from india who have told about the current market in india. you guys are simply arguing with them without knowing what exactly is happening here. No one here including me is willing to pay 16k for an oit dated phone with below par specs. Ranbaxy has just mentioned xiaomi. We have asus zenphone, micromax, karbonn, spice etc which gives us more value for money. No one herr would b ready to spend money on a new os and an average specced phone. I too would say it will b a flop.... people in india think with their brain, not with their heart... They hav no feeling towards sailfish or jolla like the members here
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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by javispedro
haha r u high? even if u take worldwide spec, the number of ppl u hv mentioned might not even hav heard the word jolla. U giys r highly opyimistic as u r thinking with hearts, i dont think jolla will sell more than 500 phones in india haha
So the other 0.1% is a friggin 1.29 million people. Why is it so hard to understand simple logic?
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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
It is but the Jolla is dual Krait cores at 1.4ghz whereas the Moto is quad Cortex A7 at 1.2Ghz. Dual Kraits usually beat Quad A7 in most situations.
slower cpu - there i was thinking it was a quad-core vs dual
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
Sorry, meant the storage RAM not main RAM. Moto is only 8GB.
less ram - there i was thinking they both had a GB
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
I meant compared to the first generation which had the same resolution but a smaller screen. 5" is too big IMHO.
bigger screen with higher resolution and higher quality - what a turn off!
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
8MP, Same as a Jolla, up from 5mp in the previous generation. It could be a VGA camera as far as I'm concerned. All phone cameras are ****.
camera - pretty sure the camera is better too now.
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2014-09-24
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Tobacco Use Prevention and Control (TUPAC) ! wow, i am amazed. well i am living in one of the most populous state in India and i know people stay away from technical stuff like flashing images, kernels. they need just big screens and apps. believe me upto this day i havenot seen another guy in my state with nokia n900 or n9 in the hand. i have not seen any rooted android device in my state. i tell other people to root the device, unlock the bootloader but they dont care. they only want whatsapp and facebook , even the hillbillies are interested in moto g now a days. there is a single phone in India with ff os offered by Intex but its not doing well , its supercheap but u can get an android closer to that price range . last but not the least its not illegal to grow mariju*na in my hood so hell yeah we enjoy the dank.
tupacalypse now.
tupacalypse now.
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2014-09-24
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
its rap man not K.G rhymes what do u expect.
S'ok man...
Not knowing who tupac is I would consider an intellectual blessing.
Biggie and Tupe were just a pair of thugs...and in the grand scheme of musical history... talentless... frankly.
Gangsta appeals to the basest...bottom of the septic tank... common denominator
Gangsta is nothing more than bravado, hatred, hot air, bragging on male sexual prowess, how much "whatever" they got and you don't, what immoral/ illegal activity they are condoning, how they should be feared, how torn up that their thug friends/ family/ loved ones were just killed by other rival thugs, how the "system" keeps them down and rejects them (wonder why), how they are misunderstood (hardly), and lastly how they lovingly refer and talk/ treat their women or women in general. 1 or 2 or a handful or a 1000 gangsta songs which are benign / benevolent cannot erase the overwhelming amount of base ugliness this genre vomits forth. Least of all the gauche fashion statements they purport .
fini to that.
As far as choices concerning intelligent, thoughtful, and well researched device purchases by the masses in any country ...well...forgive them for they know (note the one word omission) what they do.
but tupac ..n biggie ....talentless ! i am amazed again.
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2014-09-24
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This discussion on rap/hiphop is downright funny since other genres of music are equally as questionable (to me) as death and black metal. One trades slang and profanity for grunts and profanity.
Oh well, back to the subject at hand - I can easily glean that I have zero overlap with any of you guys on music; let's continue our overlap in the realm of being a geek and mobile OS enthusiast with opinions and preferences.
Anyway, Jolla to India at a competitive price is a good thing. Whether or not the Indian market will embrace it has yet to be seen. There's cheaper Android One phones in the market, the Google (Lenovo pending) owned Motorola G (2014) phone that's upcoming soon and of course other phones that are already out and cheaper and probably have better specs.
But even then, Sailfish will soon be launched as a launcher - it's in testing now. The community needs to be expanded to grab these newer developers that India has a plethora of and fold them into Sailfish with the promise of being a "big fish in a little pond" - their efforts will be taken up by a much smaller community in greater numbers/percentages than they would in iOS and Android. Their efforts could gather more accolades and attention while growing Jolla's ecosystem organically.
I, for one, see a lot of potential of being adopted into China (HK) and India markets even if they grab just 1%. We're talking about 2.x Billion (not sure of the actual number but I know it's huge) and 1% of that is a large number for a small company like Jolla.
Not bad for a group of Nokia upstarts that are still doing their thing long after leaving Nokia and that pit of purgatory called Windows Phone under Elop's rule.
I just hope that they understand marketing and community need to be tied together better. I dislike how it's being handled at the moment; but that's my beef with Jolla. Well that and as an American, I'll all but shut out with only a glimpse of Sailfish on my Nexus 5 (alpha with limited apps and functionality) or to purchase a phone somehow and then have only 2G level support while away from wi-fi.
Not ideal.
Let's see what happens in India.
Oh well, back to the subject at hand - I can easily glean that I have zero overlap with any of you guys on music; let's continue our overlap in the realm of being a geek and mobile OS enthusiast with opinions and preferences.
Anyway, Jolla to India at a competitive price is a good thing. Whether or not the Indian market will embrace it has yet to be seen. There's cheaper Android One phones in the market, the Google (Lenovo pending) owned Motorola G (2014) phone that's upcoming soon and of course other phones that are already out and cheaper and probably have better specs.
But even then, Sailfish will soon be launched as a launcher - it's in testing now. The community needs to be expanded to grab these newer developers that India has a plethora of and fold them into Sailfish with the promise of being a "big fish in a little pond" - their efforts will be taken up by a much smaller community in greater numbers/percentages than they would in iOS and Android. Their efforts could gather more accolades and attention while growing Jolla's ecosystem organically.
I, for one, see a lot of potential of being adopted into China (HK) and India markets even if they grab just 1%. We're talking about 2.x Billion (not sure of the actual number but I know it's huge) and 1% of that is a large number for a small company like Jolla.
Not bad for a group of Nokia upstarts that are still doing their thing long after leaving Nokia and that pit of purgatory called Windows Phone under Elop's rule.
I just hope that they understand marketing and community need to be tied together better. I dislike how it's being handled at the moment; but that's my beef with Jolla. Well that and as an American, I'll all but shut out with only a glimpse of Sailfish on my Nexus 5 (alpha with limited apps and functionality) or to purchase a phone somehow and then have only 2G level support while away from wi-fi.
Not ideal.
Let's see what happens in India.
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less ram - there i was thinking they both had a GB
bigger screen with higher resolution and higher quality - what a turn off!
camera - pretty sure the camera is better too now.
there is no such thing as a bad phone, there is such as a thing as a bad price however.