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Originally Posted by vinca
I believe that Jolla never wanted to be a hardware manufacturer in the first place. Their true product is Sailfish, and they want to sell that product to manufacturers who would themselves create phones. So the Jolla Phone itself is a one-off, and future phones should come from companies like Intex.
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2015-10-16
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In the long run HW manufacturing will most likely cease, but I find it hard to believe that it would happen before there are additional manufacturers covering more than single country or continent. They have hinted that there might be something cooking and separation of HW development to different company also points towards that direction. Hopefully there is refresh coming... rather sooner than later.
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
It certainly looks more and more like that with every passing day. But it did not look like that at the beginning. If the product they are selling is the software, then the common sense would suggest presenting it on a bog-standard, pure-reference-design hardware. This is the case with the tablet but the phone and its TOH concept deviates from the standard (if only a little) and, for quite some time, they were pushing the TOH concept like the best thing since sliced bread. Either they changed their mind some time in the past two years or they were sending out mixed messages
I believe that Jolla never wanted to be a hardware manufacturer in the first place. Their true product is Sailfish, and they want to sell that product to manufacturers who would themselves create phones. So the Jolla Phone itself is a one-off, and future phones should come from companies like Intex.
Having said that, I agree with you. I do not expect any new phone coming out of Jolla Oy.
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Well that is no surprise at all. Jolla said that long time ago.
Having said that, I agree with you. I do not expect any new phone coming out of Jolla Oy.
But lets hope that Jolla Mobile Oy(or whatever it is going to be called in the future) brings a new phone.
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by pichlo
I don't think they really ever actively pushed the ToH concept - other well, other than that video from May 2013. If they really pushed it they would release (or partner with someone to release) some active hardware making use of the interface rather than just colored pieces of plastic.
for quite some time, they were pushing the TOH concept like the best thing since sliced bread. Either they changed their mind some time in the past two years or they were sending out mixed messages
Jolla did cooperate with the ToHKBD project, but that is still far from what could be done, such as helping to market the third party ToHs, selling them in the Jolla web store, etc.
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by MartinK
What to make of this statement by Antti saarnio from July then?
Jolla did cooperate with the ToHKBD project, but that is still far from what could be done, such as helping to market the third party ToHs, selling them in the Jolla web store, etc.
We are very committed to build and conquer with Sailfish OS and we also want Jolla devices to show its full potential (with TOH). Thats why were are brave enough to me bold, Unlike moves
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by MartinK
Maybe I am completely wrong but my reading of the Jolla's website is that that coloured piece of plastic is what makes them stand out.
If they really pushed it they would release (or partner with someone to release) some active hardware making use of the interface rather than just colored pieces of plastic.
"What makes us so unique, you ask? It is 1) a gesture based OS and 2) the TOH concept."
If that was not the intention then they completely misfired, at least with me
But then, marketing campaigns often do. Remember the youghurt TV commercial from a few years ago? They were running a "feel better in a week or your money back" campaign. A woman came to claim the refund and they showed her a secret footage, obtained by cameras hidden in dogs' collars, babies' bottles etc, of her doing all sorts of funky stuff. My reading of that ad was not, "we are so confident, we will gve you your money back". No, it was, "we will stop at nothing to prevent giving you your money back."
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2015-10-16
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2015-10-16
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Yes, and as Intex (to my knowledge) isn't selling into Europe itself, then Jolla (or their hardware spin-off) could still strike a deal with them to be able to resell their product with as only difference/customization a cover that says Jolla but has all the internals identical to the product for the indian market. That would be much less risky than their own first phone which they designed (and had to fund the development of) themselves.
So the Jolla Phone itself is a one-off, and future phones should come from companies like Intex.
Within the next year or so, Jolla's current fanbase (which I think is >90% in Europe) will start looking at their next phone, and I for one would happily buy a Jolla-rebranded Intex phone. Perhaps they are hoping for companies that want to offer phones in Europe, but the reality is that there aren't any. Furthermore Google and Microsoft show you can have your own product and partner products.
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2015-10-16
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Hopefully they bring something better than just rebranded Intex phone. They already have some kind of reference platforms ranging from Snapdragon 200 to 800 series, so they should have at least something to build on. Another question is the Intel Atom X3 with LTE-modem, Jolla was specifically mentioned in Intel's press release, so there might be something in works with that platform also. Don't know how it will stack up with full HD display though, now that Tablet is shipping with 330ppi display, the next phone should showcase something seriously better than the current one.
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