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attila77	2010-04-19 , 16:03
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Originally Posted by qole

With the previous install of OpenGL, things that used OpenGL wouldn't work at all. But now, with software rendering installed, OpenGL apps will work, although somewhat slowly. glxgears was giving me about 20 frames a second.

Most (if not all) debian apps are compiled/written for OpenGL (not OpenGL ES) so the HW is of little use anyway (unless a good GL to GL ES wrapper surfaces).

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	qole	2010-04-19 , 16:22
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Well the hardware is of some use; my N800 only got 10 fps on glxgears. 20 fps is respectable.

Ohh, you meant hardware graphics acceleration!

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bonkel	2010-04-19 , 18:50
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Originally Posted by bonkel

hi is there any chance to use the wiimote controller as a mouse in easy debian?

@all i've tried this:
http://bbs.nfvdr.com/redirect.php?ti...&goto=lastpost

and it works...

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mscion	2010-04-19 , 21:14
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Hi Qole,

I downloaded the v3c image on my memory card and defined
IMAGFILE in the .chroot file to find it. Seems to work. I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape? For example, when I tried to vi a file using ROXTerm in the LXDE, escape didn't work. I guess this is a trivial thing as I can set the .xbindkeysrc myself. I just had the impression from Rebhana's todo list that this was something you had done in this version. Anyways, just checking to see if there is something not right.

Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

For example in my .xbindkeysrc file I have

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '\e'"
Shift + BackSpace

that way I can Escape when needed

so I'd like to define

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text 'something'"
control + t

to make a ~
but I do not know what the 'something' is.

Thanks and, once again kudos on the great work!

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	oz87	2010-04-19 , 21:19
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i know this is not the right place to post but im having problems with easy debian
i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading...what did i do wrong? if this post bothers u just ignore it...

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	rebhana	2010-04-19 , 21:20
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Originally Posted by qole

Any other problems?

I have now re-installed almost everything I had under v3b in v3c, and everything works!

Just two questions: Is it on purpose that $CHROOT/etc/passwd has a password set for user and root or is that a leftover? Second, in /etc/apt/sources.list there is a second lenny repository

Code:

deb http://packages.tspre.org lenny main non-free contrib

I couldn't find out what that contains in addition or at variance with the standard Debian repositories. Is it even active?

Finally, I forgot to report my timing of "lzma -d" in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps:

Code:

real 8m 29.84s 
user 3m 30.39s 
sys 0m 43.44s

(The device had no activity other than skype being on-line.)

I shall of course continue using the new image and report back any issues I might stumble upon. Since I've installed and tested all the packages I use regularly (including a complete LATEX installation, djview, xmaxima, zim, vpnc, ssh, cups-client, encfs,...) and found no problems, I don't expect anything of importance. When do you plan to produce a corrected image (v3d?)?

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	rebhana	2010-04-19 , 21:33
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Originally Posted by mscion

I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape. For example, when I tried to vi a file using ROXTerm in the LXDE, escape didn't work. I guess this is a trivial thing as I can set the .xbindkeysrc myself. I just had the impression from Rebhana's todo list that this was something you had done in this version.

The .xbindkeysrc file is not part of the image, but of the easy-deb-chroot package, that's why it still has to come (if qole finds it OK).

Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

For example in my .xbindkeysrc file I have

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '\e'"
Shift + BackSpace

that way I can Escape when needed

so I'd like to define

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text 'something'"
control + t

to make a ~
but I do not know what the 'something' is.

It should be

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[asciitilde]""

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	rebhana	2010-04-19 , 21:41
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Originally Posted by oz87

im having problems with easy debian
i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading...what did i do wrong?

Do you see your unpacked file when you do

Code:

ls /home/user/MyDocs/debian*.img*

If you have given it some name or location in MyDocs which doesn't match that, you should edit /home/user/.chroot and name the image explicitly in a line "IMGFILE=...".

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	qole	2010-04-19 , 21:56
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Originally Posted by mscion

I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape?

That is not defined in the image, that is something set up by the Easy Debian package. I'll consider those enhancements when I'm updating the package.

...Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

try 'asciitilde'

Originally Posted by oz87

i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading.

If you downloaded the v3c file instead of the v3b file, the installer won't recognize the file. But you don't need to use the installer if you unpacked it yourself. Just start running Easy Debian apps and it should "just work".

Originally Posted by rebhana

Just two questions: Is it on purpose that $CHROOT/etc/passwd has a password set for user and root or is that a leftover?

I set the passwords to generic things; root is "rootme" and I don't remember what user is.

Second, in /etc/apt/sources.list there is a second lenny repository
Code:
deb http://packages.tspre.org lenny main non-free contrib
I couldn't find out what that contains in addition or at variance with the standard Debian repositories. Is it even active?

That's the old deblet repository, with Maemo device-specific packages for Debian. It is probably not much use these days. I could probably disable it now.

Finally, I forgot to report my timing of "lzma -d" in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps:
Code:
real 8m 29.84s 
user 3m 30.39s 
sys 0m 43.44s
(The device had no activity other than skype being on-line.)

My attempts in MyDocs/core-dumps were terrible. It took over an hour to complete!

When do you plan to produce a corrected image (v3d?)?

I'll try to do it this weekend. It shouldn't be too hard to get it done, but finding the time right at the moment will still be tricky.

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mscion	2010-04-21 , 16:51
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qole and rebhana

Thanks for the rapid response!

By trial and error I found another option for defining keys.

Instead of the using

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[asciitilde]""

try editing .xbindkeysrc, using the xterm from the nokia "desktop" with

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '~'"

The ~ is obtained from the sym tray (blue arrow key, sym ).
Indeed, to try the former case I had to select
the square brackets in [asciitilde] from the sym tray as they are not on the keyboard either!

I also did this for | .

Assuming it has not already been done, would this be a good time to define a canonical set of key strokes for commonly used symbols that are currently missing from the N900 keyboard? For example, ~ is obtained by control +t, | is
obtained by, say, control p. There are about ten keys that should be defined. ({,},[,],|,^,~,`,<,>) As many of these additional symbols are often used in latex, perhaps rebhanna has already thought this through. Presumably, one should be aware of common conventions like control + z or control + h when doing this. While, the British pound and Euro keys are useless for those in the US, especially as the exchange rate is so bad, I would probably keep them in the spirit of international cooperation.

Personally, the idea of having 3 rows of keys as a standard, appeals to me as my hope is that, in the future, Nokia makes a slightly bigger device that still fits in a shirt pocket
but has a larger screen (perhaps like the 810) and the keys are just big enough so that neighboring keys can be typed with different fingers of the same hand (having 4 rows would again
restrict the key size). Perhaps this is not possible. But having this capability will save my eyes and speed up typing considerably.

Last edited by mscion; 2010-04-21 at 20:33.