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#101
maemo.org and its relationship/dependency of Nokia is still confusing, agreed. Hopfully this confution will fade away once maemo.nokia.com is released. Some community software will be promoted in that website. If a Chinook or extras-devel app appears there, or if the description/screenshots used are outdated - you will be able to blame Nokia and only Nokia.

(our way to approach this will be not to recommend any app out of extras and with wrong/outdated information)

As for today I think Dave Neary (not a Nokia employee) is the one selecting the Pearls and I'm sure he would welcome direct feedback (in #maemo or maemo-community list, I don't think he follows regularly ITt) and help.

The idea of the Pearl being selected randomly from a set of application has been bradly discussed many times. However, for what I remember there is no enhancement request in bugzilla nor a task in the backlog. Feel free to kick this off. The execution depends nowadays on the Maemo community and the priorities set in the development of maemo.org - not anymore on Nokia.

About the selection of Fremantle stars to support already now, the discussion is not public among other reasons because such selection depends a lot on what we know about Fremantle and what we know about ongoing developments inside Nokia or by third parties. Besides, it's not that unfrequent that the selection of winners is discussed privately.

Nothing of this would stop the Maemo community discussing and selecting their Fremantle Stars publicly. In fact this would be probably a useful and exciting exercise since we are going to select just a few projects to concentrate our support on the,, even if we also think there are many more stas out there.
 

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#102
I'm not sure about the whole random-pearl-thing. Even if it was done with a perl script.

My easy-debian-chroot app, while I think it is cool, and lots of other people think so too, would be a bizarre choice for a maemo pearl... I like having a human choose the pearls by looking at the application stats, perhaps even downloading it and taking it for a spin... An "Editor's Choice" kind of thing...
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#103
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perhaps even downloading it and taking it for a spin...
I would personally say this is a requirement.
How can you recommend something you haven't tried yourself?
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#104
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
maemo.org and its relationship/dependency of Nokia is still confusing, agreed. Hopfully this confution will fade away once maemo.nokia.com is released.
maemo.org being the home of the Maemo Community (and in community control), you're certainly not relegated to just complaining about issues with the Pearls or Stars. You're more than encouraged to step up and work on the appropriate changes yourself.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
maemo.org being the home of the Maemo Community (and in community control), you're certainly not relegated to just complaining about issues with the Pearls or Stars. You're more than encouraged to step up and work on the appropriate changes yourself.
Understood ... i won't complain anymore.
 
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#106
Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo View Post
There's the next problem: Some projects like evince use screenshots from their desktop counterparts ... a strange thing for a "featured maemo application". Others are just very old screenshots. Both will confuse users. Since there aren't that much featured applications it should be possible to present them with recent maemo screenshots so users really get what they expect from the screenshots. Everything else is just confusing.
(Haven't noticed this; but I can imagine.)

As far as I'm concerned:

If you see such, put it in some kind of database. Then later, we can contact all developers. Or you can contact the developer right away (preferably with your 'good' screenshot) .
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
I'm not sure about the whole random-pearl-thing. Even if it was done with a perl script.

My easy-debian-chroot app, while I think it is cool, and lots of other people think so too, would be a bizarre choice for a maemo pearl... I like having a human choose the pearls by looking at the application stats, perhaps even downloading it and taking it for a spin... An "Editor's Choice" kind of thing...
IMO all Killer Apps could be Pearls. We could rename "Killer Apps" to Pearls.

1) Its a more friendly and unique name.
2) They're synced.

For all one knows, a Killer App destroys the device...
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#108
Killer app is something different to a Pearl; a Pearl is a nice piece of work, looks nice, well packaged, etc.; a killer app is something so cool/interesting/novel(?) that people would want to buy the device to use it (or at least consider that).
 
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Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo View Post
Understood ... i won't complain anymore.
I'm not saying you can't complain, but stepping up and making the changes you think need to be made yourself is probably going to be a more productive route.

Be proactive, not reactive.
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
I'm not sure about the whole random-pearl-thing. Even if it was done with a perl script.

My easy-debian-chroot app, while I think it is cool, and lots of other people think so too, would be a bizarre choice for a maemo pearl... I like having a human choose the pearls by looking at the application stats, perhaps even downloading it and taking it for a spin... An "Editor's Choice" kind of thing...
I think that the random pearl thing means selecting the pearl from pool of preselected pearls, so not totally random. In fact there is pool of pearls http://maemo.org/downloads/featured/OS2008/50/ but it seems that the highlighted pearl is changed very seldom.
 

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