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#101
Originally Posted by 2disbetter View Post
It never ceases to amaze me that people get so me me me in these kind of situations. I for one and happy qa is alittle more important on this update than on the initial relase firmware. I can appreciate that it was gamble then though. Do they delay the release of the phone again or release and fix later? This is standard for any tech company though, and I for one appreciate that I have the phone now (im typing this with it).

Patience people. Nokia promised you nothing. Give them time to get it right. In the meantime i'll be enjoying my phone.

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Im reasonably happy with my N900, however it cant be denied that Nokia repeatedly mentioned that a firmware update would come in December/at the end of the year. It was pretty much promised. I can appreciate a delay can happen, as is the way of the world - however Im not sure why people seem to deny it was repeatedly mentioned MMS would come with the next firmware update.

example 1 (translated from the Swedish Nokia site)
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...SmzoMyvONc0Dmw

"Initially limited compatibility with the SIM:
Nokia N900 comes with software to version 1.0, which may affect compatibility with some Hutchinson 3G SIM (mobile operator 3). For full compatibility with all Swedish operators' SIM cards we recommend updating to version 1.1, which is expected to be available for download at the end of December 09th"
 
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#102
Originally Posted by chrisp7 View Post
Im reasonably happy with my N900, however it cant be denied that Nokia repeatedly mentioned that a firmware update would come in December/at the end of the year. It was pretty much promised. I can appreciate a delay can happen, as is the way of the world - however Im not sure why people seem to deny it was repeatedly mentioned MMS would come with the next firmware update.

example 1 (translated from the Swedish Nokia site)
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...SmzoMyvONc0Dmw

"Initially limited compatibility with the SIM:
Nokia N900 comes with software to version 1.0, which may affect compatibility with some Hutchinson 3G SIM (mobile operator 3). For full compatibility with all Swedish operators' SIM cards we recommend updating to version 1.1, which is expected to be available for download at the end of December 09th"
We are still "towards" the end of December '09 not the "end". Until Dec 31st past, they are still keeping their promise in my book.
 

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#103
Originally Posted by x61 View Post
We are still "towards" the end of December '09 not the "end". Until Dec 31st past, they are still keeping their promise in my book.
If it comes out then, then great. But be prepared to eat your hat.

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Then again perhaps I should as it says 'expected' in December. ha

I could have sworn it was mentioned multiple times by Nokia..
 

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Is there somewhere a statement why Nokia does not release such a beta firmware to the interested public? Like a special extras-devel for firmware snapshots.
I mean they gave out this firmware to some people for testing and filing bug-reports, but why not use the vast interested community for that. Would probably a win-win-situation.

Most of the end-users wouldn't notice it and all the people here would be happy.
 

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Originally Posted by micm View Post
Is there somewhere a statement why Nokia does not release such a beta firmware to the interested public? Like a special extras-devel for firmware snapshots.
I mean they gave out this firmware to some people for testing and filing bug-reports, but why not use the vast interested community for that. Would probably a win-win-situation.

Most of the end-users wouldn't notice it and all the people here would be happy.
I agree with you on this one. It would have been much better releasing the firmware to the general public rather than some selected bourgeoisies. Look at what happened when the N900 was given to some "selected 300" people for testing. Most of them did not report any problem with the device until it was time for them to return it then they start complaining which as a result was the cause of delay in the release of the N900. Personally, I have lost trust in Nokia development and marketing team Long Time Ago.

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#106
Originally Posted by x61 View Post
I agree with you on this one. It would have been much better releasing the firmware to the general public rather than some selected bourgeoisies. Look at what happened when the N900 was given to some "selected 300" people for testing. Most of them did not report any problem with the device until it was time for them to return it then they start complaining which as a result was the cause of delay in the release of the N900. Personally, I have lost trust in Nokia development and marketing team Long Time Ago.
How do you know that after they had returned N900 they started complaining? As far as i understand tester noticed problems and Nokia started fixing them. Just like it was meant to be.

Really Maemo is open and all, but if Nokia made the "beta fw" update available even just for Maemo.org community we would have 90% of people here complaining about crashed applications, restarting N900 and what not. It would backfire nicely to Nokia direction afterll this is internetz and people will hear about it and find way to update the N900 even if Nokia tried to limit it.
 

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When Nokia announce anything like releasing firmware at the end of Dec...it actually means 2 or 3 months after that....they always delay things and they are never trustworthy. Those that have gone through the release of the N900 knows what i am talking about.
 
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I just don't want web application to suddenly shut down due to internal error, the maps application to be actually useful and not laggy, a proper fb and twitter client.

Yes, developers can make some too, but look at HTC, its all integrated in a contact seemlessly. Nokia should learn from them
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In fact if I read the announcement correctly this was Nokia's compromise to the community asking for a "publically" available firmware testing. Nokia doesn't want to send it out easily before it's ready.. but was willing to select a few of the "community" to give it to just to see what kind of real-world scenario's cause problems.

Does it suck waiting for firmware updates to fix problems on your device you bought? Yes of course. But this problem exists in all devices. People screamed the G1 sucked until Cupcake... which took a while. But now I don't even think the G1 will get Donut, and myTouch/Cliq I don't think will get Eclair. At least, not without root.

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Originally Posted by romanianusa View Post
When Nokia announce anything like releasing firmware at the end of Dec...it actually means 2 or 3 months after that....they always delay things and they are never trustworthy. Those that have gone through the release of the N900 knows what i am talking about.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
 

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