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2011-02-08
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Originally Posted by zimon
I think that from beginning this is what Elop's speech was about.
I wonder if Elop is now reconsidering his speech for Friday?
Seems like everything has changed now.
Add to this recent announcements about MS apps on Symbian and Nokia becomes hub for mobile activity maintaining control about every aspect of their portfolio.
In short to middle term this may hurt Qt but with potential big immediate financial gains with Ovi.
Now, it still needs perfect execution of two elements:
- *timely* release of kick-*** MeeGo device
- *working* Ovi
And past Nokia record is far from perfection in those two areas...
Edit: well, I was kinda stupid, weren't I?
Last edited by vvaz; 2011-02-13 at 15:35. Reason: typo/elopcalypse
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2011-02-08
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#103
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Originally Posted by zimon
You mean he gets his information from tech blogs and forums like us?
I wonder if Elop is now reconsidering his speech for Friday?
Seems like everything has changed now.
That's so cute
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2011-02-08
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#104
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If ANY Android application is possible with Alien Dalvik, the Dolphin HD browser will be possible too. So there might be a possibility for Flash 10.1
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2011-02-08
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#105
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Most likely anyway we need FOSS version of Dalvik, FOSS Dalvik.
You dont now how the ownerchip looks like. If their are any deals or how the structure looks like. Im sure nokia have a say even if they dont have the final decition.
Infact I think its enough if nokia say: Ignore maemo, we dont support it anymore. just a very limited number of users. But look at this graph of meego users a year from now and think of the profit your app would generate.
It is doable.
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2011-02-08
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So, as others have pointed out, this doesn't appear to be a stand alone environment, à la Wine, but instead a wrapper applied to individual applications by the developer or the app store. The "by the app store" option is intriguing though, as it implies the translation layer doesn't require recompilation of the application, as winelib does.
Given that, I wonder how likely is it that the wrapper, once installed normally in conjunction with one Android application, could be copied out and applied to other, not yet Alien Dalvik-atized Android apps.
It would be interesting if Amazon took an interest in this for their own Android store. At a glance, it would appear to be a good fit for them.
It would be even more interesting if Ovi Store began accepting the submission of straight Android apps, applying this wrapper in exchange for a higher cut of the profits than for native Qt applications.
Given that, I wonder how likely is it that the wrapper, once installed normally in conjunction with one Android application, could be copied out and applied to other, not yet Alien Dalvik-atized Android apps.
It would be interesting if Amazon took an interest in this for their own Android store. At a glance, it would appear to be a good fit for them.
It would be even more interesting if Ovi Store began accepting the submission of straight Android apps, applying this wrapper in exchange for a higher cut of the profits than for native Qt applications.
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2011-02-08
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Originally Posted by vvaz
Since Alien Dalvik is build top of Qt, I am not surprised to know soon it is coming also for Symbian and WP7.
In short to middle term this may hurt Qt but with potential big immediate financial gains with Ovi.
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2011-02-08
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ill just wait patiently to feb 15, to see if this thing is going to get releases and start praying for a leak
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2011-02-08
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Originally Posted by Dave999
That's correct, and I didn't really take ownership into account. If Nokia owns (enough shares in) Myriad then they could block this. But then I'd expect them to have blocked even the announcement.
You dont now how the ownerchip looks like. If their are any deals or how the structure looks like. Im sure nokia have a say even if they dont have the final decition.
A little searching reveals Nokia hasn't dealt in Myriad shares directly for the last few years. Though they could have a controlling interest in one or more of the companies that did.
Originally Posted by Dave999
Nokia could say that, but I don't see why it would change anything. Myriad already have a working version on maemo (for demo purposes atleast), Selling/giving away that version shouldn't affect sales on meego. And withholding it increases the chance of a competing (commercial or open) solution beeing developed and taking over the market.
Infact I think its enough if nokia say: Ignore maemo, we dont support it anymore. just a very limited number of users. But look at this graph of meego users a year from now and think of the profit your app would generate.
OTOH if "nokia meego" is to be locked down so that you couldn't install anything withoud nokias blessing then they could threaten to block myriads apps if they release this. But if that happens lots of the hardcore users/developers that Nokia needs would move to competing meego devices once they're released.
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2011-02-08
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#110
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Originally Posted by zimon
There is no Qt for WP7. Symbian is not really a that attractive target because of the limited hardware it usually runs on.
Since Alien Dalvik is build top of Qt, I am not surprised to know soon it is coming also for Symbian and WP7.
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You dont now how the ownerchip looks like. If their are any deals or how the structure looks like. Im sure nokia have a say even if they dont have the final decition.
Infact I think its enough if nokia say: Ignore maemo, we dont support it anymore. just a very limited number of users. But look at this graph of meego users a year from now and think of the profit your app would generate.
Last edited by Dave999; 2011-02-08 at 19:14.