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The problem with all of these new entrants is that they don't have the experience on the software side. It's taken Nokia/Maemo and lots of independent developers/modders/programers three years to make a decent UI and repository that is stable and works. I'm putting my bet with Nokia. Hopefully they will listen to us and come out with a unit that exceeds what they already have achieved with Nxx series. Buying Trolltech and the mapping company will go along way in enchancing the software side of the tablet.
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2008-08-19
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I would guess the n900 will be released ces 2009. And it is going to be kickass.
I hope nokia also releases a small phone which goes along with the tablet lines. i guess most of the users here would buy it without second thought.
I hope nokia also releases a small phone which goes along with the tablet lines. i guess most of the users here would buy it without second thought.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by dan
Meanwhile, the drivers are still closed-source blobs and Nokia doesn't seem to be standing up for us, the community, to have access to the hardware from these parts providers the way other companies have (Neuros, Pandora, etc.). Worse--Nokia comes out in the press and does the most stupid backwards steps like claiming that OGG is riddled with patent issues preventing them from implementing it--but they'll implement MP3? And then telling the open source community that they NEED to embrace closed architecture and closed software--which tells me that they still don't seem to 'get it'.
The problem with all of these new entrants is that they don't have the experience on the software side. It's taken Nokia/Maemo and lots of independent developers/modders/programers three years to make a decent UI and repository that is stable and works. I'm putting my bet with Nokia. Hopefully they will listen to us and come out with a unit that exceeds what they already have achieved with Nxx series. Buying Trolltech and the mapping company will go along way in enchancing the software side of the tablet.
Open standards and open source are both ways of enticing customers with enablement and promotes competition between all parties. Closed-source and closed-architectures are a way to keep people jailed into a product and limits progress and freedoms.
I *DO* buy into closed. I don't have a choice, most of the times. But if I'm given a choice, I will prefer the more open choice. If the music industry is any indication, people generally seem to prefer freedoms over tight controls.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord
The N810w was to be out already, and I'd bet was done on time, but they were releasing it in conjunction with Sprint Xohm rollout; being held back by the reorganizations and delays on the network side doesn't mean Nokia's hardware guys are sitting around staring at N810w prototypes all day. I expect N900 development schedule is not being substantially altered by this, and if you think Nokia is going to sit on the N900 to try to maximize profit from the N810, or from some wierd "there must be 6 months" rule, I disagree. They can see that there's competition.
Ture! But at least it is better than the N900, which is still vaporware.
But seriously, when is the N900 going to come out? Lets see, N810W is still not out, so say it come out in September. How long a gap was there between N800 and N810, or N810 and N810W? Like 6 months give or take. So the N900 will be released next summer.
Next Summer will not be now, not even close. The playing field will be radically different. All the Android stuff, and Pandora, and MIDs and blah blah blah will be out. And they will all be better or at least the same as the realistic N900 presented in this forum. What advantage does the N900 have?
Android devices will probably also be close competitors, but since there will be a number of different devices, it's hard to say much. I expect they'll bracket the N900 in capabilities; price will vary, especially with carrier subsidies and such.
The N900 will thrash most MIDs for battery life and/or portability, but they'll run x86 apps. I don't see these as being as close of competition as you imply, and the blah-blah-blahs I'm thinking of tend to track further away (in the same direction).
N800 and 770 were awesome devices, because there was nothing like them on the market. Now things have changed, and nothing is being done.
Like it or not, the iPhone has changed everything. Just look, everything is now (falsely) an "iClone", even a 770 that came out before! Seriously, I was watching Harold and Kumar: GB, and my friend said "Lol, he is too cheap to buy an Iphone..." and I had to explain the the "phone" he was using was not a phone and it came out years before the iPhone. Needless to say, he only believed me because he trusts me as a friend and gadget lover. I don't understand what Nokia is doing to change that, and they have to....
p.s. Yes, I'm just a bit of a fanboy. That doesn't mean I'm wrong!
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord
I really believe more in Nokia to release N900 than a community-become-company which never released anything before that. Of course I'm not all in the Pandora details, so if you know of a big company behind it, please feel free to correct me.
Ture! But at least it is better than the N900, which is still vaporware.
Originally Posted by danramos
Drivers are not Nokia's to release them and i don't believe Pandora would have if TI didn't open source them.
Meanwhile, the drivers are still closed-source blobs and Nokia doesn't seem to be standing up for us, the community, to have access to the hardware from these parts providers the way other companies have (Neuros, Pandora, etc.). Worse--Nokia comes out in the press and does the most stupid backwards steps like claiming that OGG is riddled with patent issues preventing them from implementing it--but they'll implement MP3? And then telling the open source community that they NEED to embrace closed architecture and closed software--which tells me that they still don't seem to 'get it'.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord
N810W is specialized piece of hardware which was practically orphaned due to collapse of Sprint WIMAX network. IMO shouldn't be counted as normal release.
But seriously, when is the N900 going to come out? Lets see, N810W is still not out, so say it come out in September. How long a gap was there between N800 and N810, or N810 and N810W? Like 6 months give or take. So the N900 will be released next summer.
N900 should be out before Black Friday.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by vvaz
Ummm, how knows you this? Seriously, I'm doing my darnedest to hold out and not get a n810, or something equally delicious, but.....there doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon (n9xxx wise that is).
N810W is specialized piece of hardware which was practically orphaned due to collapse of Sprint WIMAX network. IMO shouldn't be counted as normal release.
N900 should be out before Black Friday.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Bundyo
This still doesn't explain why Nokia isn't trying--and in fact has been saying things to the contrary, as I'd pointed out. It also doesn't really speak to the fact that others using similar architectures have been successful.
Drivers are not Nokia's to release them and i don't believe Pandora would have if TI didn't open source them.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by vvaz
I call Blatherskite!
N900 should be out before Black Friday.
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by iamNarada
Until now Nokia released one model per year. As I said I don't consider N810W as regular model.
Ummm, how knows you this? Seriously, I'm doing my darnedest to hold out and not get a n810, or something equally delicious, but.....there doesn't seem to be anything on the horizon (n9xxx wise that is).
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