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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Bundyo
DSP decoding OGG to offload work from the processor the way Nokia implemented it for MP3's.
What exactly OGG has to do with the hardware?
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord
The N810W is a side-product. Now that that whole WiMAX thing doesn't seem to take off, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just cancelled.
Lets see, N810W is still not out, so say it come out in September. How long a gap was there between N800 and N810, or N810 and N810W? Like 6 months give or take. So the N900 will be released next summer.
The "N900" will be available well before next summer, that I'm sure of.
Originally Posted by Thesandlord
Uh, for not knowing anything about the next-gen tablet, you sure go ahead with some big assumptions.
And they will all be better or at least the same as the realistic N900 presented in this forum. What advantage does the N900 have?
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by iamNarada
Tekrat said something a few months ago about expecting something in the fall time frame.
Ummm, how knows you this?
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by danramos
Isn't trying to get TI and others to open source their stuff? ********.
This still doesn't explain why Nokia isn't trying--and in fact has been saying things to the contrary, as I'd pointed out. It also doesn't really speak to the fact that others using similar architectures have been successful.
Nokia tried and is trying like hell to get TI and others to open source as much of their stuff as possible. How much influence do you think their efforts have had in the new open direction of OMAP3?
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2008-08-19
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Citing the much faster adoption of openness from other vendors using similar hardware and Nokia's public statements about how everyone should feel the love for closed architectures doesn't instill confidence. But I'm quite open to being corrected if Nokia, TI and other involved parties will come out and actually demonstrate it more in public so that we know they're actually doing something for us. If they're doing this in closed rooms and we're talking speculation then there's nothing there to help convince me. I'm sure an open press release will go pretty far for all involved as it did for ASUS when they opened up.
Isn't trying to get TI and others to open source their stuff? ********.
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Are you sure this is attributed to Nokia's efforts? I've not been convinced so far, based on what they've released to us as actionable news and not just wordy feel-good fluff.
Nokia tried and is trying like hell to get TI and others to open source as much of their stuff as possible. How much influence do you think their efforts have had in the new open direction of OMAP3?
If I had more to go on it would help a lot to convince people around me who look to me as the person that tries all this stuff out and follows the openness trends in gadgets. I've even had a few business owners approach me about the usefulness of the tablet in their organizations. So far, I've seen much more publicized actions from other parties even though I can't imagine that they would have the same pull as a big company like Nokia.
I've been a very, very happy N800 owner for a long time now and I've seen people buy it up around me because they've seen me make it do things that they've only been able to do on their laptops. Many of them are former or current Palm owners like I am. I credit that very highly to the tinkering openness geeky factor. You only need to look at the iPhone and how limited people felt with it that they needed to jailbreak it to make it do what the customer wanted.
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2008-08-20
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Worse--Nokia comes out in the press and does the most stupid backwards steps like claiming that OGG is riddled with patent issues preventing them from implementing it--but they'll implement MP3? And then telling the open source community that they NEED to embrace closed architecture and closed software--which tells me that they still don't seem to 'get it'.
Regarding the embracing closed sourceness, well yeah, Nokia are there to make money, if some stuff has to be closed source (to protect their IP, to make hw development cheaper for them, whatever), although I'll not be overly happy about it, I can accept it as long as it doesn't affect what I want to do.
Wifi driver is annoying, as is PowerVR as is IVA, this is a learning experience though, I hope they'll get these and other things sorted out for the next device.
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2008-08-21
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Does it make sense to relate the release of OS2009 (maemo 5.0) to the N900?
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2008-08-21
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Originally Posted by lardman
I thought that the reason why the public (and interested parties) couldn't help write an open-source implementation of OGG decoding on the DSP was because they kept a tight lid on how to program the DSP. Has that status changed recently?
My understanding is that there was some legal issue with the OGG Vorbis DSP task, whether that's to do with patents or with whether the work was completed satisfactorily I've no idea. It's well within our power to write our own, if only some of the people who moan about it pulled their fingers out and helped....
Regarding the embracing closed sourceness, well yeah, Nokia are there to make money, if some stuff has to be closed source (to protect their IP, to make hw development cheaper for them, whatever), although I'll not be overly happy about it, I can accept it as long as it doesn't affect what I want to do.
Wifi driver is annoying, as is PowerVR as is IVA, this is a learning experience though, I hope they'll get these and other things sorted out for the next device.
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2008-08-21
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So many posts in this ooold thread.... I no longer care about what's in the N900. I want the N900 now. Come on, guys, the N8x0-platform is really, really old now.
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