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#1171
Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
This approach has the additional advantage of separate batteries for each device. So if you want to listen to music for 12 hours, you aren't sacrificing your ability to make or receive a phone call at the end of the flight (for example). But the question is, are you willing to put up with carrying all of those devices as the price?
depends on whether or not i can buy them piece-meal and that i can replace them independently of each other.

over time i have picked up a phone, the tablet, a gps module and ad2p capable handsfree (jabra bt8010, love it!).

if i happen to bring the phone and the gps but not the tablet, i can still use the gps. same with the handsfree.

i also recently got a charger/battery combo with a usb port, so that i can charge the phone or tablet on the go (i can do that with the jabra to if i remember to bring its data cable). the gps sadly wants 1A to charge.

this also allows me to go for a cheaper non-smart phone. im currently considering the sonyericsson C702 (and yes, it has built in GPS).
 
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Originally Posted by tso View Post
depends on whether or not i can buy them piece-meal and that i can replace them independently of each other.

over time i have picked up a phone, the tablet, a gps module and ad2p capable handsfree (jabra bt8010, love it!).

if i happen to bring the phone and the gps but not the tablet, i can still use the gps. same with the handsfree.

i also recently got a charger/battery combo with a usb port, so that i can charge the phone or tablet on the go (i can do that with the jabra to if i remember to bring its data cable). the gps sadly wants 1A to charge.

this also allows me to go for a cheaper non-smart phone. im currently considering the sonyericsson C702 (and yes, it has built in GPS).
i have pretty much the same list of equipment, phone (nokia e51), tablet (770), gps (holux m1200), and bluetooth handsfree (one of the plantronics). for me, especially since different chargers were required for the phone and the gps, it gets to be a bit much. hence, my desire for convergence. maybe i'm just enamored with the grass on the other side of the fence. i'm almost leaning towards getting the "higher end" version of the 5800 when it comes out early next year.
 
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#1173
Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
I was under the impression that bluetooth connectivity was limited to just Nokia phones. At least that's how I read the information on it. Then again, it could have been Nokia marketing spin too. But that was how I initially read it.
Well, you're clearly mistaken, as my Samsung cellphone is clearly not a Nokia. . . .
 
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#1174
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Well, you're clearly mistaken, as my Samsung cellphone is clearly not a Nokia. . . .
Cool. I'm glad to know that. It makes me feel a bit better knowing that I can likely get my motorola working with my n810. Now if I can just figure out how to sync using bluetooth, I'll be fine. ^_^;;

TSO: Yes, I believe it was bug labs. But they're only the first. There's like two others doing something like them, but on a much more detailed level. Their idea is to take a MID, UMPC, or IT and make a uniform barebones form factor, then make all the parts interchangable. It might require some delicate hands on work, but the stuff is swappable. So if you blow your wireless card, you just swap it out. Need a 3g antenna instead, just swap it in. Etc, etc, etc.

Again, it's only lab work and theory right now as the test unit is too bulky for regular use, but it's a good start.
 
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord View Post
Works fine with a OLD Sony Ericsson, so I don't know what you are talking about...

I want to address one thing about the cellphone inside a NIT. We all agree that it would be bad because telco companies might place restrictions (like the iPhone), but another complaint is the

"I don't want to be stuck with 3G or 4G, because it is not upgradeable, thus I would like to pair with a phone over bluetooth so I can have the fastest internet connection."

Ok, the way the market is moving today, by the time 5G or full coverage of 4G comes to the market, I am 99.999% sure that you could buy a phone or MID or whatever that is cheaper and faster etc than a tablet. So why the hell would you use a tablet in the future, when the phone you are using to tether is BETTER than the tablet itself? Just does not make sense...
Alright then, how about I make the issue more relevant to today's architecture? Which type of radio should the Nokia tablet support? Only WiMax? 3G? EVDO?

You know that if you pick only one of these, you've already limited my ability to choose carriers and if I already have a provider for my cell phone service, I probably can't use it.
 

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Good point, and I agree, but I was talking about the upgrade factor.

I like the just pick one that is most widespread and live with it mantra. Most people don't seem to care which radio, as long as there is one AND the option to tether via bluetooth or WiFi
 
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There's not "one that's most widespread", because there's not one world. In Europe, it's easy; everyone's running compatible 3gsm systems. In the US, things are rather fragmented (which doesn't preclude picking one), but the European option doesn't work at full speed on any network. And there's differences in Asia, too, with which I'm completely unfamiliar.

So the best solution is swappable data cards. One (for the most widespread option) per market, or hopefully several for the US (and anywhere else with several widespread options).
 
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord View Post
Good point, and I agree, but I was talking about the upgrade factor.

I like the just pick one that is most widespread and live with it mantra. Most people don't seem to care which radio, as long as there is one AND the option to tether via bluetooth or WiFi
Soooo... most widespread? Which one's that?
 
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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
It makes me feel a bit better knowing that I can likely get my motorola working with my n810.
Well, I have a Motorola phone working with my N800, so it certainly seems likely you'll be okay.
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#1180
Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
i have pretty much the same list of equipment, phone (nokia e51), tablet (770), gps (holux m1200), and bluetooth handsfree (one of the plantronics). for me, especially since different chargers were required for the phone and the gps, it gets to be a bit much. hence, my desire for convergence. maybe i'm just enamored with the grass on the other side of the fence. i'm almost leaning towards getting the "higher end" version of the 5800 when it comes out early next year.
i checked up on the holux and it seems its able to charge of a usb port.

that means it could charge of something like this:
http://proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php...126&t_mode=des

or this:
http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...rge+SCM7880-05

the latter one is especially interesting as it has a built in battery. and come with a usb to nokia converter.

dont know how your plantronics charges tho...

only problem with the philips one is that its only 1000mA.

but they have bigger ones, up to something like 8000mA.

but those are not battery and charger in one...
 
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