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2015-10-08
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#1182
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Originally Posted by minimos
I assume it works like everywhere in real live nowadays. I for example am using the charger which is next to me to charge a device, and not neccesarily the one which was shipped with the device. And I guess I am not the only one (by far).
I wonder how does it work regarding the warranty terms: if e.g. I use one of those iffy cheap chinese USB chargers that provides a poorly regulated supply voltage and the tabletgets damaged, does warranty apply?
Without the legal umbrella of "you haven't used an officially approved/provided charger", how does it work?
*fixed typo*
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2015-10-08
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@ Finland
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#1183
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Originally Posted by mscion
I did a little bit of googling.
Well, I'm happy to see a schedule. Could anyone explain how big the first wave is? For example in the indegogo campaign there were, for early sailors, three groups. The first 1000, the second 1000 and , I think, the next 2000. (Sorry if I don't have it quite right here). Are all the early sailors included in the first wave? Or how are the "waves" of shipments broken down by numbers?
First wave started in Indiegogo at 19 Nov 2014 and ended at 11 Dec 2014.
Second wave seems to have started in Indiegogo at 29 Jan 2015 and ended at 2 Apr 2015.
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2015-10-08
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#1184
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Originally Posted by mscion
The diagram shows that the first wave is shipped in early October. As it is already early October, this means that the first wave is exactly the folks who have already received their e-mail invites. Presumably about 200 to 250, from the estimates I've seen.
Could anyone explain how big the first wave is?
The second wave will be exactly as big as the number of tablets they'll be able to wrest out of the factory by early November. Dunno how many that will be.
The third wave apparently requires more components to be ordered, so it has even more constraints against it. It could take even longer than December to complete, if Jolla continues to run up against roadblocks...
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2015-10-08
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@ UK
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#1185
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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra
They also have the annoying habit of getting lost. I have fewer chargers in my house than devices, even though I purchased some extra. I suffer a permanent shortage of chargers, not excess. Your use case is not the only one out there
However, chargers seem to have annoying habit of outlasting their bundled devices, so there is excess of them.
The only acceotable argument in the entire charger debate is the one presented by Copernicus. Fair enough. But then do not complain about "unfair" reviews.
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2015-10-08
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@ London
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#1186
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Originally Posted by OVK
But not new; the phone has done the same thing for about 18 months. And mostly a gimmick, as most of the scenarios when you want to lock rotation are to prevent it unexpectedly* rotating - indeed, the use case scenario given in the article is precisely such a thing - using the tablet in bed. And if it is unexpected, you are unlikely to have your finger on the screen ...
It is not.
The reviewer likes the fact that the screen does not rotate if tablet user has finger on screen. So he likes the way the rotation lock is implemented, not the rotation lock as such.
And if that's the highlight of the tablet**, as the review seems to be suggesting by using it as the primary strapline, then Jolla is in trouble.
* In the sense that you don't know exactly when the screen is likely to rotate.
** Note that I don't think it is. I just think the review is poor.
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2015-10-08
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Originally Posted by strongm
I have not read the translation of the article but in the original article (if I remember this correctly) this was mentioned because it is something different from Android and iOS. So I suppose that the reviewer has not used Sailfish phone.
But not new; the phone has done the same thing for about 18 months.
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2015-10-08
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#1188
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Originally Posted by minimos
It is not covered by the warranty in Jolla's case or in other vendor's cases. If an error in equipment A causes damage to equipment B, then the vendor or importer of A is the responsible party, but even in that case there might be limitations that apply to the responsibilities.
I wonder how does it work regarding the warranty terms: if e.g. I use one of those iffy cheap chinese USB chargers that provides a poorly regulated supply voltage and the tabletgets damaged, does warranty apply?
Without the legal umbrella of "you haven't used an officially approved/provided charger", how does it work?
For example if you are living in EU and order a cheap USB charger from China, you are the importer and according the laws in EU you are the responsible party of any damage caused by the charger, like paying the burnt house.
Disclaimer: consult your trial judge for official answers
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2015-10-08
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#1189
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Originally Posted by strongm
This is just my opinion not a fact and higly offtopic. Although Helsingin Sanomat is the biggest newspaper in Finland, I don't hold it in high regard. Young women making opinion pieces (or columns stuff like that) and not really reporting news.
But not new; the phone has done the same thing for about 18 months. And mostly a gimmick, as most of the scenarios when you want to lock rotation are to prevent it unexpectedly* rotating - indeed, the use case scenario given in the article is precisely such a thing - using the tablet in bed. And if it is unexpected, you are unlikely to have your finger on the screen ...
And if that's the highlight of the tablet**, as the review seems to be suggesting by using it as the primary strapline, then Jolla is in trouble.
* In the sense that you don't know exactly when the screen is likely to rotate.
** Note that I don't think it is. I just think the review is poor.
Last edited by MisterMaster; 2015-10-08 at 12:44.
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2015-10-08
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#1190
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There is another thing with the charger: You need to have different plugs for England, Europe, US, Australia... So for them it is much easier (and cheaper) to not have another shipping logistic thingie with the chargers. Or you need a meta charger with changable plugs.
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The reviewer likes the fact that the screen does not rotate if tablet user has finger on screen. So he likes the way the rotation lock is implemented, not the rotation lock as such.
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