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2008-12-19
, 13:24
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#112
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
This is exactly the problem. If on one side you educate your users how to reduce wasted energy from your products, but spend MORE energy just to spread the products to the users, then it's a net loss for the environment. Now, if you used solar/wind/thermal/whatever sources to power your billboards, I'd say, that's a message. But this way, it sounds more like 'we advertise (=waste energy) at all costs, and if we can reduce this effect by coercing our users into certain practices, all the better'. So, they waste, we save. They are not environmentally friendly because of the charger message, at least not more than a tobacco company is a friend of your health because of writing 'smoking can cause adverse effects, illness or death' on the cigarette box. Now read the first paragraph of my post again and replace environment with health. It doesn't matter how much tobacco companies spend on peoples health bills, on education on effects of smoking, nobody will consider them be the sincere 'good guys'. When a tech company does EXACTLY the same, they are heroes. You don't have to agree with me, just think about it.
And ofcourse billboards cost electricity. Thats advertising. Advertising also makes corporations go round 'n about.
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2008-12-19
, 13:32
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#113
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Alright, I've been made aware, now how do I disable it? Or does Nokia think its customer are too immature to make that decision for themselves?
Ragnar makes a good point; its more about awareness than specific cases.
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2008-12-19
, 13:37
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#114
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For me, it's not having the message that is the problem - it's the fact that you can't have an option to stop the message from coming up.
But it seems that Nokia are too anally retentive to differentiate between the two...
But it seems that Nokia are too anally retentive to differentiate between the two...
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2008-12-19
, 14:22
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#115
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Originally Posted by qwerty12
Let's see if we can get "don't show this again" capabilities for Harmattan. Filing an enhancement bug for it would be ok.
For me, it's not having the message that is the problem - it's the fact that you can't have an option to stop the message from coming up.
But it seems that Nokia are too anally retentive to differentiate between the two...
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2008-12-19
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#116
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Originally Posted by ragnar
Like I said to Quim, too little too late. I'll be using Advanced Power.
Let's see if we can get "don't show this again" capabilities for Harmattan. Filing an enhancement bug for it would be ok.
In the hope that your less informed customers wont have to suffer, though.
Last edited by GeneralAntilles; 2008-12-19 at 15:01.
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2008-12-19
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#117
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Welcome to the qwerty zone 
Advanced Power *****slaps, in every possible way, the original applet but for those who like using the old applet:
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/libbattery.so
Replace /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/libbattery.so with the one above and the message won't display at all but the light will still come on when taking out the charger. I think this is an mce/dsme/bme thing.
EDIT: Deleted that sorry. Please don't use that, seems I didn't test rigorously enough. The message won't show indeed - but the applet also thinks it is still charging >.<. I've put the original one back in its place and as I've got two weeks, I can take a proper look
Last edited by qwerty12; 2008-12-20 at 09:21.
Advanced Power *****slaps, in every possible way, the original applet but for those who like using the old applet:
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/libbattery.so
Replace /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/libbattery.so with the one above and the message won't display at all but the light will still come on when taking out the charger. I think this is an mce/dsme/bme thing.
EDIT: Deleted that sorry. Please don't use that, seems I didn't test rigorously enough. The message won't show indeed - but the applet also thinks it is still charging >.<. I've put the original one back in its place and as I've got two weeks, I can take a proper look
Last edited by qwerty12; 2008-12-20 at 09:21.
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2008-12-19
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#118
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i say we blame thermodynamics and leave it at that...
and on that note, who here is willing to help introduce said laws into the study of economics?
and on that note, who here is willing to help introduce said laws into the study of economics?
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2008-12-19
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#119
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Originally Posted by qwerty12
Nice! Any chance of making a libbattery.so that replaces the nagging with an alternative message?
Replace /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/libbattery.so with the one above and the message won't display at all
I don't know, something like "Don't forget to unplug the onion from the elephant", or "This message is being displayed to save electricity", or "Nokia is corporately greenish", or "Remember to let go of stylus before scratching eye".
Regards,
Roger
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2008-12-19
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#120
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Originally Posted by eiffel
I did this one before the libbattery
Nice! Any chance of making a libbattery.so that replaces the nagging with an alternative message?
I don't know, something like "Don't forget to unplug the onion from the elephant", or "This message is being displayed to save electricity", or "Nokia is corporately greenish", or "Remember to let go of stylus before scratching eye".
Regards,
Roger
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2285#c9
Regards,
Faheem
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OTOH, my DAP (Iriver) says 'Complete!' (with a huge full battery symbol) when its completely refilled, but the LCD is off. Only when I press a button or unplug the cable it says this. So when I look at it the next time, and attempt to use it, it says 'Complete!'. The difference here is that the LCD is off, but goes on.
The issue is that the device doesn't know a better way to contact the user because it isn't aware where or when the user is in the neighborhood and takes note of the device.
And ofcourse billboards cost electricity. Thats advertising. Advertising also makes corporations go round 'n about.
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