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I am pleased that a new tablet is coming out. I am going to assume that Nokia will give us the ability to turn all radios off.

If like Texrat says and the price is not a lot different from the current models then I don't see the included radio being a problem. Of course I'll not be able to use it. But the other gains (hardware and software) that the device provides alone will make the purchase worthwhile.
 
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I keep hoping for some mention of the results of the "no bounds" project. Being able to connect my NIT to a large monitor and do real work would be SWEET!
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If the price is too high in my opinion I'll just ge the 810.
 
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The thing needs a docking station. With VGA out and additional USB ports for extra peripherals. SOLD SEPARATELY!
 
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Originally Posted by dafrabbit View Post
Ah, finally, someone brings up the topic I'm most interested in. There was so much talk today about "Maemo 5" in terms of the hardware...what kinds of news do we have about "Maemo 5" in terms of software? In fact, I was under the impression that "Maemo" had to deal with the OS of the tablets rather than anything hardware related at all? What's the deal here?
Well, the software has to support the hardware, so the info is related... but it might seem kinda like Nokia wanted to announce something, didn't have a product launch ready, and so worked up a speech about Maemo (software) mentioning the big thing that makes lots of people happy about hardware.

And we've known a lot about Maemo 5, but not the 3G issue, so it's naturally getting the most coverage.
 

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I don't want to carry a docking station wherever I go. A USB hub would be OK though.
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The thing needs a docking station. With VGA out and additional USB ports for extra peripherals. SOLD SEPARATELY!
Why? Why not just VGA out and a standard USB connector; situate them all on the same end/side of the device, so that a single gang connector can connect them all (and audio and power), but they can also be used individually.
 
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Originally Posted by macr0t0r View Post
Don't be so sure. ATT has the "MediaNet" plan for their "dumb" phones and the PDAConnect plan for tethering or smart phones. Having a smart device is just as pricey as tethering fees. The only time they've disallowed tethering is with the iPhone (insert big ugly rant of how this Mac-user feels that the Apple iPhone is proof that Apple no longer gives a crap about it's customers and developers).

I've been down the all-in-one road for a few years, but have since switched to a Nokia 6550 and an N800 tablet. It's much nicer. The phone is small, durable, has a good battery life, and goes everywhere. The tablet (without the cell-stuff) was low-cost, has a nice big screen, and I can BT connect without pulling the phone from my pocket. Separate is a much nicer arrangement.

Besides, when a device uses a cellular service, every firmware update has to be vetted by that service to make sure it doesn't "abuse" the network. Additional delays to hardware and software acceptance is NOT a happy thing. I'll be happy with last-years tech on my locked-down cellphone while I play with a modern, constantly-updated, open tablet.

Yah...toss my vote in for being very apprehensive about hspa integration.

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I though it was a huge let down. the guy from wind river had a much more entertaining and thoughtful presentation.

As a Developer

I didn't get anything from the speech except that the device would be faster. Great, because speed was such an issue in the previous devices. While more speed would be welcomed, it's hardly the glaring problem that I would say... scratchbox is, the poorly documented closed pieces, the quirky MicroB browser, the reboot loops, or the general difficulty of developing native Maemo apps.

I will end up with more platform diversity, and not in a good way.

I don't doubt Nokia's contributions to the open source community are huge, but I still get the distinct impression they "still don't get it"

As a maemo.org community member

Nokia can't just keep throwing out "great hardware" and expecting us to pick up the slack. This time the "great hardware" may or may not come branded from a carrier ( and make no mistake, they will muck it up ). Each carrier will want it's pound of flesh and it the community be damned.

We will have every problem of before and now we will have carrier branded issues to deal with as well.

As a user

One of the points of the n810 was it WASN'T another poorly done convergence device. My n810 is my "digital duct tape" able to perform a lot of free form tasks without too much effort. It is not, and has never been, a good "utility device" like a phone or a PDA. I would be pretty pissed off if my $$$ phone suffered from reboot loops or couldn't tell the difference between a contacts home and work number. In a duct tape device I can gloss over many of the problems because of what I can do as a hacker because I don't expect the kind of reliability that a phone needs to offer.

I expect more from a utility device when it comes to the base system. I did not get any impression from the speech today that the existing flaws with the n810 as a utility would be solved ( say via VM'ing or other, high level, system protection methods ).

When it comes down to it why would I, as a user, buy this device? By the time it's release we will have Android to compete with as well as the iPhone. Both of these other platforms offer a bevy of built-in or low cost applications that have more polish than many of the best Maemo apps.

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Basically I felt like once again he was sitting up there talking down to the community. He sat up and talked about openness, while being coy on if this new device will contain just a data radio or the full phone stack. He talked about working with upstream projects but refused to state compatibility with existing hardware.

Based on this very limited information I am not terribly excited about Maemo 5 or the hardware that it will run on.
 

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Brontide "gets it" too.
 
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