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2009-08-19
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Originally Posted by fms
Our definitions of 'small', 'established' and 'vicious circle' obviously differ by quite a margin
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2009-08-19
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#112
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Originally Posted by attila77
Yes, you seem to call spiral a "circle"
Our definitions of 'small', 'established' and 'vicious circle' obviously differ by quite a margin
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2009-08-19
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#113
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Hey guys, let's not bite off more than we can chew here, huh? How about we concentrate on just making the platform attractive, viable and alive first, hmm?
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2009-08-19
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I think much of this thread has been about attracting a set of developers exclusionary to another set of developers. I dont still understand why we have to have a exclusionary mentality to attracting any set of developers.
So what if iPhone developers are odious. So what if Java developers don't create bloatware, so what if WinMo devs are not creative .... its not about developers attached to their platform, its bringing in developers based on Maemo's strength.
There's nothing to be gained by excluding any group and not trying to attract all kinds of developers. Ultimately when any of those other platform developers start developing for Maemo, they are all Maemo developers.
So what if iPhone developers are odious. So what if Java developers don't create bloatware, so what if WinMo devs are not creative .... its not about developers attached to their platform, its bringing in developers based on Maemo's strength.
There's nothing to be gained by excluding any group and not trying to attract all kinds of developers. Ultimately when any of those other platform developers start developing for Maemo, they are all Maemo developers.
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2009-08-19
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@ ˙ǝɹǝɥʍou
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#115
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This sort of 'keep it niche' mentality reminds me of the goth/emo/geeks/ outcasts in highschool. Or the 'l33ts' on IRC.
Nothing wrong with competing in the mainstream, don't be afraid of the crowd
Nothing wrong with competing in the mainstream, don't be afraid of the crowd
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2009-08-19
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#116
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Originally Posted by ysss
That's not what I'm saying.
This sort of 'keep it niche' mentality reminds me of the goth/emo/geeks/ outcasts in highschool. Or the 'l33ts' on IRC.
Nothing wrong with competing in the mainstream, don't be afraid of the crowd
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2009-08-19
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#117
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Originally Posted by nilchak
Because in the real world (evidently located outside this thread) attracting each different group of developers takes different actions and all these actions cost time and money. so, naturally, you have to prioritize by cost and expected conversion rate.
I dont still understand why we have to have a exclusionary mentality to attracting any set of developers.
Of course, in the imaginary world of bloggers and forum posters, you can get 'em all, instantly, and for free, just by crying loud.
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2009-08-19
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#118
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Originally Posted by fms
Well, that depends on what are you crying out loud...
Because in the real world (evidently located outside this thread) attracting each different group of developers takes different actions and all these actions cost time and money. so, naturally, you have to prioritize by cost and expected conversion rate.
Of course, in the imaginary world of bloggers and forum posters, you can get 'em all, instantly, and for free, just by crying loud.
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2009-08-19
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Originally Posted by fms
Good luck with that. Seems like Symbian just isn't that popular with developers either.
iPhone/etc. users is not how you will grow the community in this case. Unless you are mega success, you should grow community by converting Symbian and MIDP users/developers, i.e. guys that would naturally want to upgrade by switching.
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2009-08-19
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#120
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@zerojay: Sorry, that wasn't directed to your previous post. I agree with your message, actually.
@gerbick: Wow, I didn't know RIM has that many developers working on their platform. I do have a BB Bold and I haven't found any apps really 'exciting' on it unfortunately.. even basic PIM apps seem to be bested by WinMo or even PalmOS offerings (Agendus). I guess this is something to look forward to.
After reading about Symbian's performance and looking at Maemo's languishing movements... is it just me or does Nokia not know how to deal with software developers..
@gerbick: Wow, I didn't know RIM has that many developers working on their platform. I do have a BB Bold and I haven't found any apps really 'exciting' on it unfortunately.. even basic PIM apps seem to be bested by WinMo or even PalmOS offerings (Agendus). I guess this is something to look forward to.
After reading about Symbian's performance and looking at Maemo's languishing movements... is it just me or does Nokia not know how to deal with software developers..
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