Come on, Jay. I'm not a Karma whore. That was pretty low, brother. I'm a pretty selfless guy, tbh. I'm trying to be helpful to this, which is MY, community, and I consider myself a part of it wholeheartedly. But whether we're developers or users, we see a login and it doesn't work as expected, and some people leave only because they have a hard time signing in. I had the issue with making a Brainstorm, so I'm speaking from experience.

We can just ignore the whole thing, but I thought saying something might give insight to making things smoother for the masses, sort of like my portrait/ASR "crusade", which wasn't as nice as I'd like. However, after the surveys show how many people want it and find its absence an oversight, as I'd predicted, I wished some of us could just start listening to criticism constructively. I had a suggestion, not a declaration of war.

If only developers belong in certain parts of the site, just let it be known and save us non devs some time. I know none of the info "requires" a login, but most don't, and it causes confusion we could easily solve.

My site has a community of over 115k members. Most of the readers here won't filter there, since this site provides something my community does on a smaller scale. We are the little brother of "The .Org", as we've started calling this site, and want to be partners, not an alternative. There's nothing blatant about trying to make things better here that relates to my site, which hasn't been mentioned in this thread once.

Cut me some slack, and reevaluate your assessment of why I'm here. Obviously, there is some holdover form the past month's fiasco, but I've let that all go, and forgiven the whole ordeal. Can you do the same, my friend? I'm bipolar, and a jerk, but I want to make amends, if you'll accept.

I'll avoid this thread to avoid the PERCEPTION of any ill will to "The .Org" if that will please you, but doing so will keep my opinion out of this community, which I don't find fair. I want to be a member here, but not if I'll be blackballed anytime I say anything. I'm only here to help, nothing more.

I guess, Jay. I was more bothered by the poaching accusation, but I'll just let it go. How about that?

I appreciate the support, guys. I need it sometimes. And users are in fact arriving here and leaving confused, and coming to me and others in the community for answers I have to come here to find anyway. I'd like to make it easier to get the info, for me and them, and also have some code of conduct where we stop being so negative to each other.

User friendliness is rooted in friendship, which is something I hold dear. We can all tone down the sarcasm and rude statements, and focus on helping "The .Org" be a better place to share knowledge. This site will be my Bible for the next year, so I want the best it can be.

Well can I ask what gave you the idea I'd EVER poach readers from here? I'd invite anyone, but only via PM, as I've done with you. That really put me and my site in a bad light, and I wish you wouldn't do that. We operate at zero profit, and work as a resource, not a business. We have ads, but nothing major. I'm far from a rich man, and even doubling our readership won't change that.

I ask you to keep being the funny Jay we all love, but be careful before you ruin the reputation of a loyal member of our community, which we are.

I'm all out of jokes, Jay. You were pretty wrong for what you said, and I'm shocked you'd even say it. I invited you as a resource, but you ridicule me like that? I'll pass on your monologue. Not so funny to me.

anyone else have any input to help make things better in the user friendliness of tmo?

If everyone would simply check their ego in at the door, we'd all get along just fine.

Seriously, dig deep, and you'll find it's pretty much at the root of those threads I usually point, snicker, and shake my head at as I pass by. And now this thread shall join those ranks.

Well, thanks, but SSO is already a known missing feature, and not easy to implement! (I still have nightmares about AD, LDAP, and Kerberos ).

Therefore, I don't see how complaining about it here is fruitful, and insiders know that. In human psychology I think, on perceived level, it boils dow nto this: either you're an insider and know such, or you're an outsider who doesn't know that. Both is OK, but don't try to be both when its in your advantage. As outsider you show your respect, and accept when your contribution isn't valuable because it is already known and widely discussed. As insider you just learn the final pieces of the puzzle you missed or forgotten. And, one acts accordingly.

Don't make such a drama out of it though. Don't take it too personal. Just smoke a spliff or drink one and relax (whisky here, against the flu ). Every person has a manual. Although man(1) claims: No manual entry for woman

Pf you're not geek enough!!

[quote[$ make love not war
make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop.[/quote] Antoher one

@Chris

I tried to not respond, but cannot.

I said you were trying to "draw people to your Maemo site".

What exactly does that mean to you?

If Yahoo! drew me to their site for Fantasy Football, does that mean that I wouldn't be able to go back to Google for Gmail?

After all, they're both search engines. By your logic, if I was "drawn" to one, I would not be able to go back to the other. (read poaching...your word, not mine)

I'm so sorry I put you and your site "into a bad light" and "ruined your reputation" and "ridiculed" you....... SERIOUSLY?

LMFAO.

Apparently the drama is also bigger in Texas.

Somehow a corporation with a certain name ending on icrosoft is missing from your hypothesis. Or, oogle has paid royalties related to icrosoft's vendor lock patent.

Another classic to cheer ya up further
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng cheers