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2009-10-20 , 17:55
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#111
Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
One reviewer's (from nokiausers.net) n900 unit has started to become unstable. Wonder how he got it into this state? hopefully production firmware doesn't exhibit this. But he only got this unit last week


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Had to put the N900 preview to one side for now, and wait for its new firmware. Its become unusable for anything web & wifi related.
I gather Chippy (from UMPC) has a dead screen on his model, too. Which is.... worrying.
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#112
Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
I gather Chippy (from UMPC) has a dead screen on his model, too. Which is.... worrying.
Remember that these are pre-production prototypes.
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#113
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Remember that these are pre-production prototypes.
Important to note as well, some units are going to have hardware etc failures. Regardless of QA some units are just going to have a bad component. Send it back - get a replacement.

That's not to say if every ones screen starts to fail we shouldn't be worried
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#114
Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
quick, to the point, and on target. You are obviously more technically adept or suited to the N900 than Om. Thanks.
I find it a little surprising that everybody who praises the N900 is "technically adept" while others (Eldar, for example) get bashed here.

While i do understand the emotional aspect of "Us Maemo Good", we have to acknowledge that as a smartphone (and the 'phone'-part is what this thread is about), the N900 still has to catch up with... well, all other competitors. Including Nokias S60 line.

There's nothing wrong with this. It's not sold as the perfect smartphone, and as a pocketable computer, there's probably nothing that beats it. But why are most of us trying to insist that it's a good phone? It isn't. Yet.
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
I find it a little surprising that everybody who praises the N900 is "technically adept" while others (Eldar, for example) get bashed here.

While i do understand the emotional aspect of "Us Maemo Good", we have to acknowledge that as a smartphone (and the 'phone'-part is what this thread is about), the N900 still has to catch up with... well, all other competitors. Including Nokias S60 line.

There's nothing wrong with this. It's not sold as the perfect smartphone, and as a pocketable computer, there's probably nothing that beats it. But why are most of us trying to insist that it's a good phone? It isn't. Yet.
All I look for in a review is that the first paragraph doesnt make a friggin comparison to the iphone. Review something on its own merits thats all I ask.

Also Eldar copped a pizzling here because he constantly refused to say what firmware/hardware he was running and instead chose to go on and on and on about how he has the coolest toys and how he reviews everything and has ins with all the manufacturers etc. Not a good way to boost your cred.
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#116
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Remember that these are pre-production prototypes.
I'm assuming these came off the production line as they are final hardware and they gave out 300 of them. If Nokia is not aware of the screen issue the production line won't be tweaked to resolve it.

Only a problem if his screen issue is not a very isolated issue only on his unit (e.g he dropped it or left it under the sun etc)
 
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Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
All I look for in a review is that the first paragraph doesnt make a friggin comparison to the iphone. Review something on its own merits thats all I ask.
I would disagree. When I read a review, I look for what a device does better or worse, for more or less money, than its competition. For better or worse the primary competition for any phone with computing capabilities is the iPhone.

My concern is not that the iPhone is used for comparison but that the comparison is fair. The N900 has capabilities that are not present in the iPhone and vice versa. Pointing both sides out is what a good review should do.

Frankly, I would like to see a comparison with other devices like the Motorola Droid (or whatever it ends up being called). But that will probably have to wait until they both go into production.
 

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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
My concern is not that the iPhone is used for comparison but that the comparison is fair. The N900 has capabilities that are not present in the iPhone and vice versa. Pointing both sides out is what a good review should do.
Uh... just out of morbid curiosity: What can you do on an iPhone that you can't on an N900? I can think of a whole list of things that the N900 can do, that the iPhone can't... but the other way around?
 
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Originally Posted by bemymonkey View Post
Uh... just out of morbid curiosity: What can you do on an iPhone that you can't on an N900? I can think of a whole list of things that the N900 can do, that the iPhone can't... but the other way around?
I don't know of much. Basically the three advantages I have seen touted for the iPhone are a better touch experience (and a more scratch resistant screen), a far more extensive set of apps (some of which probably do things that the N900 can't do yet), and a cheaper price (at least in the US so far).

If I had to have a phone today, I'd pick the PalmPre over the iPhone and G1 over the PalmPre. Based on the announced phones, I think the N900 and Motorola Droid lead the pack. But whatever my opinion, I would bet that almost every review of any of these will compare them to the iPhone. It is the gorilla in the room.
 
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OK, capacitive vs. resistive is a difficult decision for some people, I guess... not for me

As for the apps, I don't think the iPhone had a whole bunch of apps back when Apple hadn't even launched it yet... and the price, is it really more expensive? How much is an unlocked iPhone in the states, $800+?
 
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