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#111
Originally Posted by volt View Post
You know, this thread amongst the other threads are just the scout before the old world army invades with all it's might.

Everyone who joined this place before the N900 was named, knows that it's a tablet first, and a phone second.

Everyone else in the whole world DOES NOT. M'kay? The webshops promote it as the new top of the line Nokia phone. There are lovely glossy pictures, and the texts are all along the lines

"It's a phone. It's a computer. It's multitasking. You can call with GSM, VOIP, send SMS or IM. It's the future."

I had a long thread about it here, worrying that most people would not understand why the N900 is special.

I was right.

This phone is not being marketed as an internet tablet with phone functionality. It's being marketed as the top of the line Nokia phone.

Each and every one who buys this except 1000 talk.maemo.org users and a handful researchaholics are going to expect voice navigation, voice dialling, and most certainly an alarm that beeps even if you have it connected to a handsfree.

This phone will get more complains than the N97.

It's friggin frustrating, it's a wondrous machine and noone is going to understand it!
You're totally right, and it's unfortunately going to erode the Nokia brand even more than the N97 :| Nokia will be forever known as the "sucky top of the line" phone brand, "just good for 50€ phones" - you know, like Motorola
 
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#112
there are people like me willing to give it a go even with a few rough edges but after a very lengthy first post from myself about getting off the fence and buying the phone i got myself a step ladder and got right back up on it . i am starting to wonder if it is even ready for people like me.
 
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Originally Posted by Neegs View Post
there are people like me willing to give it a go even with a few rough edges but after a very lengthy first post from myself about getting off the fence and buying the phone i got myself a step ladder and got right back up on it . i am starting to wonder if it is even ready for people like me.
What edge don't you tolerate? (honest question)
 
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#114
Originally Posted by sardaukar View Post
It is, indeed, BS. Just go to the official Nokia product page for the N900 - where does it say it is anything other than a smartphone for the masses?

Sorry, dude - Nokia dropped the ball on this one. You can either live with the rushed device and workaround the bugs (that I believe will be fixed soon-ish) because you're a devout geek, or return the device and get a refund. What you can't do, however, is deny the harsh reality - it was rushed, and it's not a mass product despite being marketed by Nokia as such.

Remember, most people don't go around forums or read Engadget or whatnot - they go to Nokia's shops or the Nokia.com website. And in the shops it's marketed with huge posters as "Your net - always on" and that appeals to everyone. It's the same shops that featured ZERO posters for the previous Nx00 devices, and that had them in a corner instead of being on display, at the store's center!

But hey, I'm going to buy one - I'll live with the bugs
This the Nokia Maemo N900 page:

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

Read that and tell me it's a good old smartphone. They don't even mention the phone there.

I do get that Nokia could shout out this more, for the lazy folks. I go to Nokia.co.uk, just for example, All phones lists the N97 as the flagship. N900 is way down there. All phones also lists the N800, which is not a phone at all, which is confusing. But how one could interpret that as a flagship device is beyond me.

"Explore these features to learn what you can do with the power of the Nokia N900 mobile computer." "...new era of mobile computing..." All this is there. And the link to maemo.nokia.com for more as well as the press releases and announcements. Click full tech specs and you can see what it does and does not.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...-n900/features

I do get it. This device is confusing people, like I'm sure previous Internet Tablets from Nokia were confusing coming from a phone company. But anyone doing any little research into the N900 should get that it is not a full-on smartphone. In some cases it is less, in some cases more (mobile computer).

N900 is the future, sure. But part of that loaded word means some of the future is yet to happen. Let's not act like Nokia didn't tell us beforehand because they did. Unlike Apple for example, Nokia shares the roadmap and their product philosophies beforehand.

So do spread the word. N900 is not for everyone. People will be disappointed if they buy it not understanding what it is.
 
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But so it doesn't get lost in the mix: I do agree Nokia.com should explain this better. They do link to the info, and to maemo.nokia.com, all pics are in landscape, no MMS is listed in features and whatnot. The info is there. But because people are lazy and because it can be confusing, I agree they should explain it better.

Criticize Nokia for this, or for being late. But don't blame the N900 for not being what it was not designed to be. If it isn't for you, then it isn't for you - please don't buy it if you are looking for a full-featured smartphone.
 
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#116
Originally Posted by iJanne View Post
But anyone doing any little research into the N900 should get that it is not a full-on smartphone. In some cases it is less, in some cases more (mobile computer).

(...)

So do spread the word. N900 is not for everyone. People will be disappointed if they buy it not understanding what it is.
I have yet to see a webshop or Nokia page have text that makes it possible to deduct the "some cases it is less" part. Only reviews will do that, and frankly, the reviewers are almost all our kind of people, tech people, crying in joy over it's good sides.

I agree that the N900 as it is now is not ready for the market slot it's in: people willing to buy the hottest Nokia available. It's behind on quite a few features most people expect in a phone.

It's the things that people don't expect in a phone, that's where it excels.
 
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But so it doesn't get lost in the mix: I do agree Nokia.com should explain this better. They do link to the info, and to maemo.nokia.com, all pics are in landscape, no MMS is listed in features and whatnot. The info is there. But because people are lazy and because it can be confusing, I agree they should explain it better.

Criticize Nokia for this, or for being late. But don't blame the N900 for not being what it was not designed to be. If it isn't for you, then it isn't for you - please don't buy it if you are looking for a full-featured smartphone. It was not designed to be one and this was announced beforehand.
 

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#118
Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
First of all Nokia N900 is not class as a PHONE. Read Nokia Claimed. It is an Internet Tablet Device with Phone Functionality added.
I wish people would stop repeating this marketing ********. It's a damn phone, end of story. All this "mobile computer" crap is non-sense and a poor attempt at creating a new marketing gimmick.

It's shaped like mobile phone it looks like a mobile phone it rings when people cAll me and I can call people on it. Stop using this " it's not a phone it's a mobile computer" as an excuse to have BASIC PHONE features not work properly or non existent all together.

Nokia really has some of you brainwashed and it's scary.
 
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#119
N900 is a mobile computer and if you dont like go else where
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Originally Posted by sevla View Post
I wish people would stop repeating this marketing ********. It's a damn phone, end of story. All this "mobile computer" crap is non-sense and a poor attempt at creating a new marketing gimmick.

It's shaped like mobile phone it looks like a mobile phone it rings when people cAll me and I can call people on it. Stop using this " it's not a phone it's a mobile computer" as an excuse to have BASIC PHONE features not work properly or non existent all together.

Nokia really has some of you brainwashed and it's scary.

They're nerds, they forgot what phones are...
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