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abill_uk	2010-05-01 , 11:17
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Originally Posted by xyes

u've asked the wrong question, u should have requested email addresses of the project leader of N900, or the software developer of N900, or any Nokia employees that involved in N900 development for that matter.

Actually ANY email address would have done but alas the sharks were out upto now and only abuse got thrown but still good things always come out of bad and everyone will for sure know just WHO is sincere and helpful from the sharks that joined in on this one.
Thanks all the same and for the record, a true sincere person is always a true sincere person that never runs with the sharks.

	Texrat	2010-05-01 , 11:18
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

Thanks Kojacker and sorry to be late to thank you as i had a lot to read here, yes it was for sure a torrent of abuse and by very much a cliche that exsist on here in Nokia's cause.
I have learned a lot of this thread and will for sure post some thoughfully written comments on this so called friendly forum elsewhere so basically the abusers have not really done much good for themselves.
I am suprised of Texrat whom i honestly thought was a sincere guy as a moderator but he just joined in with the rest... ok all noted here and you are the only one in defence of what WAS a very simple question i thank you !.

Again: what you claim happened in this thread did not happen. Your perception does not match reality.

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slender	2010-05-01 , 11:23
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Originally Posted by jamie721

yes but it didnt did it this is what im trying to say. it took 10+ posts to actualy get a usefull answer out of someone other then a sarcastic y dont u open your eyes and visit the site. Also maybe he was just trying to see if some one else had an email fair enoigh the person the surgested the site didnt but it is possible some one does which i think is why he tryed to carry on. If he wanted to go to the site and complain that way im sure he would have done that without coming here and asking about emails.

When did he ask about the correct complaints procedure for nokia?

The thing is that abill_uk is not new here. I´m quite sure that most of replies including me is because of his other posts on this forum :| It might of course look like to other users that why on earth he iis getting that kind of beating but that´s because of his other posts on this forum.

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When I answer I first look how many posts and thanks and sometimes i check what user has wrote to other threads.

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	Parody	2010-05-01 , 11:23
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

Actually ANY email address would have done but alas the sharks were out upto now and only abuse got thrown but still good things always come out of bad and everyone will for sure know just WHO is sincere and helpful from the sharks that joined in on this one.
Thanks all the same and for the record, a true sincere person is always a true sincere person that never runs with the sharks.

You should've been more specific what your complaints were directed at, if we would've known that you didn't want a customer service mail it would have saved us a lot of shouting (mostly on your part)

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kojacker	2010-05-01 , 11:24
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

Thanks Kojacker and sorry to be late to thank you as i had a lot to read here, yes it was for sure a torrent of abuse and by very much a cliche that exsist on here in Nokia's cause.
I have learned a lot of this thread and will for sure post some thoughfully written comments on this so called friendly forum elsewhere so basically the abusers have not really done much good for themselves.
I am suprised of Texrat whom i honestly thought was a sincere guy as a moderator but he just joined in with the rest... ok all noted here and you are the only one in defence of what WAS a very simple question i thank you !.

Np abill, I understand if you're frustrated to the point where you want to complain then sometimes unhelpful posts, even if they are well meaning, can frustrate. In this case, the first few posts where people going out of their way to snipe at you and someone couldnt wait to tag "begger" and "noob" on your thread. It's bound to drive people crazy. I don't understand why people go out of their way to purposely annoy other people.

Texrat is one of the good 'uns, but to be honest as mod I don't think he helped much in this thread. Maybe it's a cultural thing. Rushing to slam people or tagging your thread to make you look silly or trying to get you to email swear words in a language you dont understand to Nokia might be fun to some, but it's rude and nasty to others and not what I'd hope from a community.

sjgadsby	2010-05-01 , 11:24
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Continuing the circular conversation here is clearly not going to be productive. This thread is now closed.

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	stopgap	2010-05-01 , 11:54
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A previous thread was shut down and I had some addresses to contribute - these may prove useful to someone and have all been taken from public websites:

NokiaCare.EMEA@nokia.com
custservice.eng@nokia-care.com
ext-custservicesg@nokia.com
press.office@nokia.com
communication.corp@nokia.com

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abill_uk	2010-05-01 , 12:00
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Originally Posted by stopgap

A previous thread was shut down and I had some addresses to contribute - these may prove useful to someone and have all been taken from public websites:

NokiaCare.EMEA@nokia.com
custservice.eng@nokia-care.com
ext-custservicesg@nokia.com
press.office@nokia.com
communication.corp@nokia.com

Many thanks for this information i will get working on it now, the thread i started was closed down for obvious reasons the abuse coming from all angles and my god it shows very much now what kind of BAD forum this can actually be... still i suppose we never know untill we try.

rickysio	2010-05-01 , 12:05
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

Many thanks for this information i will get working on it now, the thread i started was closed down for obvious reasons the abuse coming from all angles and my god it shows very much now what kind of BAD forum this can actually be... still i suppose we never know untill we try.

Actually, it was shut down because OF the way you responded to any help that didn't 100% fit your criterion.

To take the analogy described in the prior thread. You had asked for a bridge to cross the river. We told you there was NO BRIDGE. You could hire a boat or swim. You stubbornly insisted that you wanted a bridge, and a bridge you'd get, and started verbally abusing us, calling us abusers, etc. We shrugged, and played along with your childish antics.