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jalyst is offline jalyst
2012-09-16 , 19:29
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#111
Was happy to do that, but after speaking to the councilors it was explained it's out of the Qn to come to a decision on that yet, adds too much complication for the transition they're planning.
But they wanted a decision on a name for the NFP now (or yesterday), this thread can always revert to a thread about site_name/domain after that, if needs be.
Well, given that the door seems to be closed on naming the NFP, we can always start that now I guess, some have already been very vocally against any sort of change in that area, bed time.
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2012-09-16 , 19:55
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I like Aeolus or the other Aeris one the best. But let's not make this any more difficult than it must be for those working on this, or those who will work on it in future. If the name has been already used in a way that could, even if it's unlikely, to cause problem in future it's not worth it.

My gut reaction to Hildon was the same as many who opposed it in this thread. But practicalities should trump wrestling over the name of the foundation. I don't think the foundation name will have much visibility compared to what the community will call itself and what domain it will converge itself under. As far as I've understood that can be a different topic.
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2012-09-16 , 20:37
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#113
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I think the two should be discussed in tandem.
Absolutely...

But dices are thrown?
Hildon? or Aeowhat?
An official statement would be nice.
Too bad to see a poll would only be about domain name now, just because it's too late now. If so - who put the deadline and why it's not mentioned here?
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2012-09-16 , 20:50
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#114
Well they did warn a few times in this thread that it needed to be sorted pronto...
As part of registering the entity they needed a name decided & by-laws finalized, cant recall all the reasons why OTTOMH, but basically they needed registration done before they can move forward.
I also asked (IIRC) if we could just go ahead with Hildon & get the council to change it later if the consensus was different, but I never got a response to that, I can't recall if it was PM's or posted.
Definitely bedtime this time.....
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2012-09-16 , 20:59
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#115
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
... some have already been very vocally against any sort of change in that area, bed time.
Actually, you have been very vocal against the name proposed by the people who worked on the initial document.

I found it personally irritating that you named this thread "We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!" as if it were a search for something new (when in fact you only wanted to replace the proposal already made).

Your first post in this thread doesn't make things clear, either. Even though I know that when you wrote it, the proposal for a "Hildon Foundation" was in place, there's nothing in that post to make it clear. To me, it still read: "Hey, we're moving to a new legal entity, do you have any ideas for a name?" instead of "The new entity will probably named Hildon Foundation, but I, jalyst, am against that. Any other suggestions?"

Call it the language barrier or my PMS or whatever, I found it strange, strange, strange ever since first I read it.


Oh, and on Aelos or whatever the spelling would be:It evokes the picture of an old, wacky teacher for Latin and Greek. I'm certainly not in favor of trendy and stylish brand names, but Aelos would be too much in the opposite direction.
 

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2012-09-16 , 21:49
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#116
I know that this may seem like an "out there" suggestion, but I have just been reading through the last few pages of the Gary Birkett memorial thread and a few people have been suggesting a commemoration of some sort for the great work he did with the community.

Now I did not want to derail that thread with this but if the question of naming the NFP foundation is still open, could something with his name/username be used?
 

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2012-09-16 , 22:12
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#117
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Well they did warn a few times in this thread that it needed to be sorted pronto...
Yeah, read that too. But that's not exactly a deadline is it?
(I'm not into IIRC, so dunno what was said there.)

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I found it personally irritating... as if it were a search for something new (when in fact you only wanted to replace the proposal already made).
In fact we [s]are[/s] were in search. And Hildon was just a suggestion as stated in the other thread's first post.

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...I found it strange, strange, strange ever since first I read it.
But that's because you were
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
very much in favor of "Hildon Foundation"... Any names made up now... will sound like... yet another name...
And that is just an opinion amongst others.

Originally Posted by CommunityCouncil View Post
the feedback after review is necessary from community members and a final acceptance of the community is needed in order to establish a legal entity to be responsible for carrying out the Maemo.org infrastructure.

RevisedHildonFoundationBylaws.docx
If the name was nothing to discuss about, then I don't understand why it's not made clear HERE. But rather let jalyst run into this mishap...
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2012-09-17 , 06:11
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#118
Originally Posted by ajalkane View Post
I like Aeolus or the other Aeris one the best. But let's not make this any more difficult than it must be for those working on this, or those who will work on it in future. If the name has been already used in a way that could, even if it's unlikely, to cause problem in future it's not worth it.

My gut reaction to Hildon was the same as many who opposed it in this thread. But practicalities should trump wrestling over the name of the foundation. I don't think the foundation name will have much visibility compared to what the community will call itself and what domain it will converge itself under. As far as I've understood that can be a different topic.
Wisest post here yet....
Unless there's still some who really want a consensus decision on a NFP name rather than sticking with what was predetermined*, then I think we should forget the whole thing.
The next thing is the site name & or domain, we can begin discussion & if a consensus on something different to the status-quo is reached, then (to avoid excessive complication) it can be acted on long after the transition's completed.

*and if practicalities allow that for councilors.

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Actually, you have been very vocal against the name proposed by the people who worked on the initial document.
Try reading again, I was referring to some users vocal opposition to change from current site/domain name, I was NOT referring to people's opposition to changing NFP entity name.
I was NOT saying there was anything wrong with that vocal opposition, just mentioning that there is already some strong opinions against it.

I found it personally irritating that you named this thread "We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your suggestions!" as if it were a search for something new (when in fact you only wanted to replace the proposal already made).
Your first post in this thread doesn't make things clear, either. Even though I know that when you wrote it, the proposal for a "Hildon Foundation" was in place, there's nothing in that post to make it clear. To me, it still read: "Hey, we're moving to a new legal entity, do you have any ideas for a name?" instead of "The new entity will probably named Hildon Foundation, but I, jalyst, am against that. Any other suggestions?"
You've GOT to be freaking kidding me....
I freaking spoke to the councilors, they said: "Sure go ahead & discuss alternative names, should a consensus be different to the current tentative suggestion*, so be it."
That's ALL I've attempted to do, don't you freaking try to suggest otherwise matey!

*Which -incidentally- had been decided on with little to no prior widespread community consultation**, yet that doesn't seem to be your concern, does it.

**and I dont criticize them for picking out SOMETHING (after some discussion on the mail-list), can totally understand their motivation/rationale for that.
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2012-09-17 , 06:19
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#119
As Win7Mac has pointed out, benny1967 is a quite ardent supporter of the name Hildon so its almost worthless reasoning with him...

I think ajalkane in the previous page gets it right that the main reason we don't want to encourage Hildon in place of Aelous etc is the divisions it may cause but if we are left with no choice due to the name being in use then we may have to go with Hildon...

Jalyst, if you can find out the true status of the Aelous name and its implications if we use it as the NFP's name I think we can present a strong case to the Council on its usage or any such name as a poll may prove popular...
 

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2012-09-17 , 06:39
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#120
Well my point in response to SD69 -which hasn't been addressed yet- is that Aeolus & Eolos (as Erendorn pointed out could case complications) aren't necessarily the only spin on that naming.
PLUS that line of naming may not even be the most popular choice, after I spell out all the suggestions very clearly in the OP...
But I honestly don't care any more, if the councilors want to close the door on this one because it's cutting things too fine for some reason, then so be it.
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