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#111
i accidentally sent token mails a second time today. Sorry, this been not planned like this, but honestly, how many SPAM do you get besides those election token mails, from google and yahoo and dunno whom ;-)

Thanks to everybody who bothered to VOTE and thus take care about maemo future, instead of B*TCH about one (now two) mail(s) in 6 months, with something important shipped to you. If you're not interested in elections, then you're not interested in who's making this very forum possible for you, or how they accomplish that. Then why the heck are you here anyway?
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Thanx jeorge for reply
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen View Post
And of course 40k registered means maybe 20k writers and maybe 10k active. This would make 0.8%
While there are 60K "users", only about 6K actually have the qualifications to vote, which is 10 Karma and an account over 3 months old. While ~80 votes may seem low, keep in mind that the last several elections have only had ~180 voters, and that most people don't care about referendums.

The most voted on election (election 1) had 905 voters. The referendums held just weeks after that, making the election rules and requirements, had less than 100 votes each.

If you care enough to vote, your vote really does count. That should be something to be happy about.

Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
the voting process is way to advance for regular user. must be in the GUI if we poeple ro vote. simular to a poll.
What is not GUI, or at all difficult, about the current elections? You click the URL in the e-mail, enter your name and token, click on the choice(s) you want, and click "OK" twice to verify/submit your vote.

There's no command line involved. Logging in and posting on TMO has more steps than voting. It's really not at all complex from the perspective of the voter. It doesn't have pretty eye candy, or title bars and cruft. But it's not about browsing and finding things. It's about voting, which is a pretty quick and non-branching thing.

Mind you, there's a lot behind the scenes going on that is complex. An open ballot system, single-use token tracking, verifiable vote tokens, using OpenSTV, all to make a fully transparent, yet still anonymous election. But form the voters perspective, it's a log-in and few clicks to choose/confirm your choices.
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One "problem", is that the voting app doesn't confirm your vote... Pressing "next" at that screen (which I did by accident) will register your vote and there's no going back.
 

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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
An open ballot system, single-use token tracking, verifiable vote tokens, using OpenSTV, all to make a fully transparent, yet still anonymous election. But form the voters perspective, it's a log-in and few clicks to choose/confirm your choices.
So it's 100% not possible (even for admins) to tell: (1) who voted, & (2) for what?

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Originally Posted by shawnjefferson View Post
One "problem", is that the voting app doesn't confirm your vote... Pressing "next" at that screen (which I did by accident) will register your vote and there's no going back.
that's new. My both voting processes shown me a "summary" of what I voted for, and I had to click "ok" again. Then a third screen with your vote confirmation token shows up, which has no next and no back button. Only then your vote got registered and your token invalidated for that particular vote.
Same on referendum vote. Maybe there's no explicit "<< back" button, but you're free to abort and restart whole process from beginning.

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Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
So it's 100% not possible (even for admins) to tell: (1) who voted, & (2) for what?
exactly.
well, we could find out about used up tokens, though the current system doesn't support it. It would need to get hacked, but the info about used tokens needs to stay in the database to block double votes (actually that info is stored in records NOT existing anymore for used tokens, but that's as good an info as any other form, since the still existing records are for the tokens that aren't used up yet), and since your token mail can get resent, we have also a table which relates tokens to mailaddr. So in principle there's a way to tell who (not) voted. But not for what.
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You guys are genius
 

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And some user like me aren't interested by useless political fight in open source community ....

We have better things to do ...
 

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Originally Posted by Khertan View Post
And some user like me aren't interested by useless political fight in open source community ....

We have better things to do ...
What's the constructive component in this contribution?
Care to elaborate what those better things are, and if you already started doing them?
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