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Originally Posted by juiceme
If you just want an Emacs-capable phone, right.
I beg to disagree on that. AFAIK most apps are irrelevant.
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What a device needs is some basic applications like phone, SMS/MMS, web browser, email, camera, maps/navigation, in that order.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Originally Posted by juiceme
Agreed.
These should all be user replaceable.
Originally Posted by juiceme
Yeah, that will help you in every case - especially, if you want to do something common very quick. O. M . G. ... that's screaming hackjobs all over. Way to go if you just want some quick results; just develop some scripts while you are waiting for the bus.
The real killer application is a console with access to the device internal functionality and set of scripting languages.
Originally Posted by juiceme
I do. We are a _very_ different target demographic.
Who needs these thousands of applications, really?
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Originally Posted by myname24
Nobody is quite a broad term. I honestly know 2 people who use whatsapp daily, rest have likely never even heard about these services on their 500-600 euros smartphones.
this is true here ( but there is some % of nokia symbian/asha but android is the half ) and since whatsapp became mainstream nobody use sms anymore .
I'm sure the younger you are, more you see whatsapp and the likes used, but in my age group (~born 89) non of my friends or uni buddies communicate with whatsapp or similar. Let alone my uncles, parents etc that in the end are the ones truly spending money.
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#114
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Originally Posted by don_falcone
I am happy we DO agree on at least this level
Yes.What a device needs is some basic applications like phone, SMS/MMS, web browser, email, camera, maps/navigation, in that order.
Agreed.These should all be user replaceable.
And let's hope that Jolla will carter to needs of both of us.
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2013-05-25
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Originally Posted by tissot
yes nobody is broad term but for around 80-90% less sms usage after whatsapp became mainstream(2011-2012 )b ( there is a number officialy released but it's off my memory ) and I'm born in 93 it's not that far from your age group and now even my uncles/aunts/ that group of age are starting to use whatsapp
Nobody is quite a broad term. I honestly know 2 people who use whatsapp daily, rest have likely never even heard about these services on their 500-600 euros smartphones.
I'm sure the younger you are, more you see whatsapp and the likes used, but in my age group (~born 89) non of my friends or uni buddies communicate with whatsapp or similar. Let alone my uncles, parents etc that in the end are the ones truly spending money.
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2013-05-25
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Originally Posted by tissot
That must be it. I am 40+ and this thread was the first time I've even heard about whatsit. My SMS-using friends and family are similar dinosaurs.
I'm sure the younger you are, more you see whatsapp and the likes used
It may also depend on your calling plan. Pretty much everyone I know is on PAYG (pay as you go = pre-paid). Nobody is on a monthly contract.
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2013-05-25
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Originally Posted by pichlo
I was born in 1975 and that's not the case. Every one around me from my age use WhatsApp. Some older guys also use Blackberry Messenger but they still use WhatsApp.
That must be it. I am 40+ and this thread was the first time I've even heard about whatsit. My SMS-using friends and family are similar dinosaurs.
It may also depend on your calling plan. Pretty much everyone I know is on PAYG (pay as you go = pre-paid). Nobody is on a monthly contract.
SMS is not free. WhatsApp messages are free (or were free until recently). Data plan is way cheaper here than an SMS plan.
Maybe in Europe SMS is 100% free? WhatsApp became mainstream because it's kinda free (not anymore though).
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Originally Posted by Scorpius
What are gonna do should Whatsapp guys shut down their service and servers and fly to Bahamas?
SMS is not free. WhatsApp messages are free (or were free until recently). Data plan is way cheaper here than an SMS plan.
Maybe in Europe SMS is 100% free? WhatsApp became mainstream because it's kinda free (not anymore though).
Because that's one big issue with the app-ified vision: when you switch from industry/open standards to proprietary applications and protocols, you rely your connectivity to a single private company.
Besides, here in Europe some operators are indeed offering packages with a certain amount of 'free SMS' per month.
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2013-05-26
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Originally Posted by minimos
What people do? Move to another FREE (not necessary OpenSource) solution, like Vibe, Line, etc. In less than a week the whole world would be chatting using something else. It has happened before: how do you think the whole world moved TO WhatsApp in the first place?
What are gonna do should Whatsapp guys shut down their service and servers and fly to Bahamas?
Because that's one big issue with the app-ified vision: when you switch from industry/open standards to proprietary applications and protocols, you rely your connectivity to a single private company.
Besides, here in Europe some operators are indeed offering packages with a certain amount of 'free SMS' per month.
People don't care about OpenSource things. If it's free it's ok. Most people don't really understand about OpenSource or propietary protocol. They just care if it's free or if they have to pay for it.
Actually you'll see it again: WhatsApp is charging for their service, so it's destined to fail. I don't think they will survive another year.
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I'll more than likely invest in one. Although I'm a little apprehensive about the snap-on covers. Will we be carrying dozens of little plastic covers when we are out and about?
They've already announced their first design change in that the production run will have a smaller bezel. They've kept the screen size, so it means a slightly smaller case.
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They've already announced their first design change in that the production run will have a smaller bezel. They've kept the screen size, so it means a slightly smaller case.
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Not to say they are wrong, but they are sourcing the information from the same places as we are. We likely here being a bit more on the Jolla pulse than they.