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#111
Buying from India into the UK is going to be subject to import duty IF customs and excise are doing their job. Not worth it IMHO. Amazon will work out cheaper and you can claim the VAT back if you're a business.

Also the warranty is with the seller in India. Jolla would be in their rights to ask you to send it back to the retailer. As it's an Indian import you'd only have 1 year warranty instead of 2 in the EU.
 
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don't know about UK, but if I import it here, difference is ~75€ from regular EU price. Not that much but also, not that little. I don't know if they have some kind of VAT that can be deducted from that price since it will be export. Like buying on rakuten. Then it would be even more than 75€.
That price on ebay is already some 80€ more than in India.
But the point is that price difference between India with all taxes vs EU with taxes is far too big now.
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo View Post
sure. But when the same thing is twice cheaper then......... It's ridiculous that importing jolla from India with taxes and everything is still quite cheaper then buying it in EU.
http://crooksandliars.com/files/uplo...foot_94b19.jpg
That's always gonna be a problem. Look at the new BB Passport. $599 in the USA but 649 euros in Europe. Importing from the USA would be cheaper. Even with added taxes that BB has to pay it would still be cheaper then what they're currently asking (649). That's why a lot of people are complaining to them right now.

But even so: Jolla's a startup, still. If we want them to succeed, we'd better accept the pricing as it is (at least I did! Jollafied for life!) and maybe if we're nice enough, they will cut the European price a bit to, say, 309 euros.

Also: who's to say Jolla was fully in charge of the Indian pricing? Maybe Snapdeal wanted to introduce the Jolla phone badly enough to subsidize the phone meaning Jolla could lower the price?
 
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#114
Discussing price difference between markets is highly theorectical. They are a reality for almost all kinds of products... yet, people don't import goods from where they're cheapest. Everyone is free to do so, of course, but the impact on the market as a whole is zero. I wonder why we still discuss this issue here.
 
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well, price difference is normal and expected. But ~70% is a bit to much....
 

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#116
Agreed.
For example.
Live here in Canada.
My whole life watched the antics of the market.
Heck.. for a few years there our Canadian dollar was higher than American....and yet we would be paying more, much more for the same product sold much cheaper in the states...hell ...our national broadcaster has done countless in depth research segments on topics like this....so why the vast price difference? ... seen lottsa people mumble this or that..but really...

example 1
-2 EXACT same products sold less than 10 miles away from another...
-separated by a national border...
-yet even with a higher valued exchange rate for years...the price difference remained the same...
-here's a topper ...the product is MADE in Canada...so you would hazard that it should be cheaper in Canada wouldn't you?

Ach! We've been watching "discrepancies" for decades here...I'm sure fellow members see the same things in Mexico.

example 2
Hell...on this one...(I don't know about elsewhere...but in Canada...) ...whenever a holiday looms it's head...a day or two before...gasoline prices start going up.
For years there was the accusation of collusion, price fixing, gouging etc.... amoungst the corps...investigations ...by Gov't even....think anything was found?
...and yet it appears miraculously that prices magically move upwards at specific calendar dates...
Hell...we're an oil producing nation...so you would figure there would be a wee bit of market stability introduced as a consequence...
example 3
2 simple batteries....exactly identical from the same manufacturer..... 1 purchased in Vancouver for $40.00
1 purchased from the parent company approved seller at the point of manufacturing. So ...even with all taxes and duties applied....shipping...etc. why is the battery from Vancouver costing me $40.00 and the exact same one imported from the company less than $8.00?
2 words: grotesque profiteering ...

The point is...to say some intangible or invisible process devoid of human involvement is at work with such price discrepancies ... is most assuredly false.

yeah Kinggo ~70% difference doesn't smell right.
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Originally Posted by vistaus View Post
That's always gonna be a problem. Look at the new BB Passport. $599 in the USA but 649 euros in Europe. Importing from the USA would be cheaper. Even with added taxes that BB has to pay it would still be cheaper then what they're currently asking (649). That's why a lot of people are complaining to them right now.
The Passport is selling for £529 Inc VAT in the UK which is £440 ex VAT or $714 US. 649 Euros is outrageous if that's the price for the rest of the EU.
 
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#118
General income is really low in india so the phone should be even cheaper. Just check bigmac index or iPad index...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
General income is really low in india so the phone should be even cheaper. Just check bigmac index or iPhone index...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
Untrue. Someone earlier in the thread said that I was wrong about the $25 FFOS phone and that everyone in India even with low income would go for a $100 Android phone instead. So price has nothing to do with it.
 
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#120
I'm still slightly confused about Indian online pricing. I've read the wikipedia entry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax#India and I'm none the wiser. Perhaps someone from India can comment.

1) Does the price online include sales tax?

In Europe we usually include sales tax (VAT) in prices online so €349 includes 22% Finnish sales tax. Without tax it's about €290.

In the USA they usually do not include sales tax in pricing.

2) If it does include sales tax, what is the price without sales tax?

3) What is the MRP?

On the Snapdeal site it says the Jolla is MRP 19,999 and is selling at 18% below that at 16,499. Is it expected to go back up to 19,999?
 
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