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#1201
But that summit's tagging onto OSiM. Think about that.


p.s. And there have been hints. I'm not finding the reference ATM, but something was said about expecting the agenda to reshuffle in reaction to an announcement from Nokia.

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Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
So how much of this functionality do y'all think could be accomplished with say...SDIO? Honestly, I've never used it, just always thought it was a great idea that perhaps wasn't implemented particularly well. I recall see at least on post here, in this thread I mean, where one of us said that their SDIO wifi card was horrible. But if drivers/cards/implementation in general could be sorted out, WiMax sdio, cdma/sim, gsm/sim, etc, etc. Possible or no?
I have a wifi SDIO for my Palm Tungsten T5.. it sucks.. a lot. At least I CAN do wifi.. but because it's so small, it's awful at catching signal (comparatively, my N800 catches even better than my laptop's wifi--impressively so!) and it uses a slot that I would otherwise have preferred to use for memory.

I would prefer to avoid SDIO and instead promote something with a better form factor for a radio device upgrade. Also--if it's big enough a DMA slot with decent integration, it can be used for other things (expansion of all sorts) likethe geek port on the BeBox, for example. After all, this appears to me to be mainly a geek's tablet.
 
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Originally Posted by Benson View Post
But that summit's tagging onto OSiM. Think about that.


p.s. And there have been hints. I'm not finding the reference ATM, but something was said about expecting the agenda to reshuffle in reaction to an announcement from Nokia.
You might have something there.....Ohhhh, please, please, let it be so.....
 
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#1204
If I'm not gonna be there, I'm at least gonna hype it so either
  1. People will be ready to report back live from the announcement.
  2. or they'll be disappointed, which will serve them right for getting to go.

j/k
 

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#1205
OK. I'll bite on this thread. Hopefully Nokia listens. . .

Let's be realistic here. No pie in the sky kind of stuff.

1) OMAP 35xx Applications Processor with OpenGL support.

2) Two standard SD card slots.
(I don't want limited built in flash, or miniSD. MiniSD is way too expensive.

3) No scratched up metal casings!
(I'm sick of seeing crappy looking scratched N810s. I'd rather keep my N800 with a BT keyboard. I spent $150 USD on a BT keyboard, and bought another N800, rather than having a scratched up, barely expandable N810 with a somewhat buggy GPS module. I'd rather by a separate phone with GPS than to buy an N810, or an N810 successor if they keep using MiniSD and scratchable metal casings.)

4) A hardware keyboard would be nice. . .

5) GPS is ok too. . .

6) A display with support for at least a 768 vertical screen resolution.
(So we can see our dialog boxes.

7) At least 512MB RAM.
(So we can run our applications.

8) An open source WLAN driver.

That's it! Nothing fancy. . . Just the basics are enough for me. Unfortunately it seems they can't simply settle on getting the basics correct FIRST before trying to get fancy with other things
 

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Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
1) OMAP 35xx Applications Processor with OpenGL support.
No, you mean OMAP3430. The OMAP3530 is larger and is missing a couple of important wireless interfaces.

Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
2) Two standard SD card slots.
(I don't want limited built in flash, or miniSD. MiniSD is way too expensive.
Good news is that OMAP3 should have the bus support to do this easily if Nokia decides they need to bundle a 2-4GB internal card again.

Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
6) A display with support for at least a 768 vertical screen resolution.
(So we can see our dialog boxes.
Er, no, that's not realistic. The OMAP3430 (the OMAP3420 and OMAP3410 go up to 640x480) supports a max of 1024x768, which means 1024x600 at our aspect ratio. That's really pushing the "sane" dpi limits, though.

Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
7) At least 512MB RAM.
(So we can run our applications.
Not entirely realistic, I've come to find out. The largested PoP packages currently offered are either 256MB SDRAM, no NAND or 128MB SDRAM and 256MB NAND. That's all that's available from the two suppliers (Samsung and Micron). This is also why the Pandora and Beagle don't offer more than 128MB of RAM. This may change, but I doubt we'll reach 512MB with any NAND.

Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
That's it! Nothing fancy. . . Just the basics are enough for me. Unfortunately it seems they can't simply settle on getting the basics correct FIRST before trying to get fancy with other things
Yeah, this thread has well and truly run its course, considering that I covered exactly what's realistic and desired back on page 1 in October last year. . . .
 
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Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
Unfortunately it seems they can't simply settle on getting the basics correct FIRST before trying to get fancy with other things
Many basics were done correctly with the N810. People just disagree on which ones they are.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Many basics were done correctly with the N810. People just disagree on which ones they are.
For example, I think a hardware keyboard is a bad idea, but that's just me.
 

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#1209
Originally Posted by gnexus View Post
6) A display with support for at least a 768 vertical screen resolution.
(So we can see our dialog boxes.
We already have this; 800 is definitely over 768.

Really, you should just get about three N800s and Xdmx. Show that SD Multi Tool who's the boss!

(I've honestly considered this; while it would be ubercool, it's likely enough to fail and minor enough in utility for me to never get around to it.)
 
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#1210
heh, now i have the vision of having one N810 and a couple of N800's wired up as a cluster with synergy as the control system

why the singular N810? the keyboard
 
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