I've actually got a picture of this somewhere . . . I should upload it.

"I want to address one thing about the cellphone inside a NIT. We all agree that it would be bad because telco companies might place restrictions"

No big deal, but we don't all agree on that.

I would like to see a SIM slot for 3G (or 4G future conection) because Simyo in my country (Spain) is offering a 25 €/moth access to Internet without penalty for exceed the 5 GB limit and without to limit VoIP or P2P conections.

Wow....not about the run it's course part, about the page 1 part. I hadn't seen page one in quite a while. Now what's interesting, is that when I looked at it, and looked at your "Not. Gonna. Happen." section, the more than 60GB with out size or weight increase caught my eye. Why says you? Cause...of the Archos toys that just came out. They somehow managed to squeeze 60GB in a package smaller than the n810 (well, thinner, slightly wider, 72mm vs 78mm, but then it has a 5inch screen). Of course they're pretty much completely in the opposite direction on the open source OS part of your NGH, but at least there is some indication that large amounts of storage space without compromising the form factor isn't impossible. Now battery life, I don't know about. They're claiming 12 hours of music playback, anyone here know what they currently get out of their n810 or n800 on just straight music playback (obviously not real world, but for comparison sake).

You didn't address battery-life; I don't know if that's an issue or not.

Yeah, I've got to say, I appreciate the concerns regarding telco restrictions and additional FCC hoops to jump through, but honestly, I don't know that I'm completely sold on the telco restriction part. I mean, Nokia wouldn't have to sell it through a telco. The phone I have right now (e51) wasn't available through my telco provider (ATT), but I was able to get it and it works very well (as in I have no problems what so ever) with my services. What's more, the phone is not a US phone (I purchased it over the interweb, it has some chinese charecters on the keys). So really, not including a GSM or CDMA radio is down to the additional FCC hoops. Personally, I'd like to see some kind of implementation of what has been suggested several times here(on this thread), namely a slot for a module, where the module would contain the radio. As in you can swap out a GSM or CDMA or whatever module/radio you what. This way you could have the radio modules be FCC certified seperately, and people who didn't want them didn't have to get them. I also though that SDIO would present an ideal vehicle for this, since there seem to be a fair number of people who would opt for additional storage (additional as in, in addition to the two full sized slots that we've all agreed should be included) in the place of the radio module, but I have no personal experience with SDIO, and the people who do have the experience seem to have had a poor experience. Anyways....I think having access to an uninterrupted data stream would be a good thing and WiFi is not ubiquitous, and WiMax...welll, let's just say that maybe Nokia should hedge it's bets.

I'm asking YOU, well, not you Benson :P, but anyone who has run their n810 continuously, but just playing music. How long did it last?

Nokia's info blurb on the n810 rates their battery life at 10 hours of music playback. I guess that's a semi valid comparison, since we're comparing website spec, to website specs rather than website specs, to user experience. So there you have it, 60 Gb, without sacrificing form factor or battery life. And it (the Archos), is using the chip that we expect to be used in the n900, it should be completely do able.

Karel Jansens has posted stuff on that, though it may have been an N800 instead. (Should be close enough.) I'm pretty sure it was over 10 hours. I don't know (and am too lazy to look) what the Archos's battery capacity is, though.


Oh, and I just realized you did say you didn't know about battery life. Missed it before I posted, I guess.

With my experience in N810 I currently got, I would love to see N9*0 to have:

> The size is perfect but I love to have the screen little more big and I think its possible coz there are lot unused space.
> I'd love to see at least 900x540 screen resolution and a true color.
> I found the raised edges around the screen very irritating coz touching the corner buttons with fingers is very hard. I wouldn't like to see the same in N9*0.
> ability to save applications anywhere in the available cards so that cloning wouldn't be necessary to download big applications
> At least 40 GB internal memory with card slot that can fit all card adapters like in laptops.
> 256 MB RAM atleast coz now just opening 3 applications takes up all the memory.
> I read in symbian pages that 1GHz processor is being developed for smart phones and why not in N9*0.
> I would love to see N9*0 easily and efficiently run Debian and all its applications though I haven't use debain at all. This is because, then I could use Debian without having to have a computer running it.
> 3D accelerator and fancy graphics card as in PCs to run amazing, eye-catching 3D games.
> Also, I like the idea of hardware keyboard but they keys are little stiff and unresponsive, So, I would like to see easy to press and responsive keys so that one can type faster with more typing senses.

Oh, I think I should stop before it gets tooo long to go through...

1024x600; I've never heard of any intermediate resolution like that, and I expect 900 would be at least as expensive as the full 1024. I'm cautiously optimistic on this, though, as there are 1024x600 4.8" screens out there, and it seems likely that N810 and N800 sized models could be made with a 4.8" screen.
I think I've commented on this 3 times in this thread, so I shan't bore everyone with a repeat; I do seem to be in the minority. I guess I'll just have to get one of those protective cases like they make for iPhones; the ones that ruin the sleek design by adding the bezel that shouldn't have been left off.
That won't happen; between the weaknesses of the FAT filesystem and the way apps live in the filesystem, the only practical option available is to union mount an imagefile on the SD. Which is still quite untidy, and I can't see Nokia shipping such a thing. The other possibility is a native SD boot from the internal MMC interface.
40 GB is only useful if Nokia intends to market it in the PMP direction as well -- they could, but they'd need to ship mplayer and a front end (probably Canola), and they've not shown interest in pursuing that market segment so far. 16GB or 32GB seem much more likely than 40, as well, since moviNAND part numbers are defined for 4, 8, 12 and 16 GB. (That's the 2GB internal SD used in the N810; at least 16GB are available now.)

As for the card slot "that can fit all card adapters", I'm not sure what that means, because none of my 3 laptops has any such thing. The union of my laptops' card slots would be: ExpressCard/34, SD/XD/MS, and type III PCMCIA, with no laptop having more than two of them. If you meant either an ExpressCard or PCMCIA, I can't see how those could be fit without substantially enlarging the device.
To support XD (which are much shorter than SD), the combo slot leaves the SD sticking out partway; none of these are suited to a pocketable device, IMO. One reasonable option would be a CF slot, which would allow a CF->PCMCIA dongle, except that PCMCIA is essentially dead; SD and USB seems like the most useful possibility without wasting a lot of space.
I don't know how you're measuring RAM usage, but I'd guess you're counting stale file-backed pages. Don't. (Even more memory is almost certainly coming, though.)
It's practically certain it'll be an OMAP34xx SoC, which can be expected to clock in the 0.8-1 GHz range.
Well, we're pretty much there; while some more open hardware would help, solutions using Nokia's proprietary stuff are already there, and what's left is

1. much more software than hardware dependence
2. not really about Nokia's image

So the N900 release should have practically nothing to do with it.
Silly me, I wanted fun games, and amazing, eye-catching 3D graphics hacks (from xscreensaver, mainly), but anyway, it won't have a graphics card. That would make it just a bit large and clunky. It will, provided it has an OMAP34xx, have PowerVR 3D acceleration in the SoC, putting it in line with the best smartphones and iPhones.
Don't have, so can't really comment, but I hope they have at least two models: one like the N800, and one like the N810.