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2013-10-01
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Originally Posted by Tujutzki
Christamas sales begin so early these days.... insanity that has only marginally something to do with christmas.
I agree with Kozzi´s assesment. Pyykkö mentioned the Christmas sale in such a way (Joulumarkkinoille tullaan = We´ll be taking part in the pre Christmas sales) that I would interpret the sales to begin early(/mid) December, at least in Finland. Of course that would still be quite late, but I won´t get get my hopes up. It they manage to get it out earlier it will be a pleasant surprise. =)
Edit: Not much else worth mentioning. He has toured Europe talking to operators.
Could mean just about anything between late october - december 24th. But yeah, propably early late november / early december.
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2013-10-01
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Originally Posted by torcida
How are you going to use 6 point multitouch? With 2 hands?
FYI:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/131001/uwe4pj8i.jpg
6-point multi-touch
Source: http://jolla.com/your-jolla/
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2013-10-01
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Sometimes 2 hands are better than one, no sexual innuendo or pun intended ;-)
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2013-10-01
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I fully disagree. Remember that there was a separate, "non public" N950 device program that distributed way more N950s than all the "Community device programs" together. The first N950 that appeared in eBay was from this alternate program (different specs).
Targeting the Maemo/MeeGo folks is a wrong ploy. All of those devices that Nokia seeded and very few of them landed in people's hands that really would have used them. Too many times have I seen devs use their own money and/or ask for a device from an user that still had it boxed up with dust on it to be donated to them. I'm not preaching that those users were wrong. I'm saying that those kind of "developers" are wrong for Jolla during this startup phase.
I won't name names. But some folks that got the N950 were plain useless and selfish. A repeat of that would be a bad thing.
Of course, by now there are a lot of the "community" N950s on ebay. Shame on them.
I think the alternate programs were the disastrous ones.
Just look at the list of applications I linked, and you will find how many of the most important N9/50 programs (specially during early days) are on that list. Those programs wouldn't have materialized without a community device program.
Basically, Jolla's story regarding useful applications seems to be "Well, we'll get them from Android". The only current source of native applications is the Maemo/MeeGo crowd! Which are so enthusiastic that are paying for the devices out of their pockets.
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2013-10-01
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Excellent point, it'd crossed my mind to raise that at the time but it was deviating from what I'd previously raised & wanted to discuss.
To be fair, we don't yet know for sure that they won't have any sort of device program, but they better get moving on that real soon.
I'll just leave this here.... ;-P
http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb/
https://github.com/nemomobile-packages
Last edited by jalyst; 2013-10-02 at 17:09. Reason: added some links
Basically, Jolla's story regarding useful applications seems to be "Well, we'll get them from Android".
The only current source of native applications is the Maemo/MeeGo crowd! Which are so enthusiastic that are paying for the devices out of their pockets.
I'll just leave this here.... ;-P
http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb/
https://github.com/nemomobile-packages
Last edited by jalyst; 2013-10-02 at 17:09. Reason: added some links
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2013-10-01
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Jolla is so damn small now so I beleive they would ever consider "hire" those developers instead of setup a developer program. I mean there is already some who was made apps before and now is hired THP etc... and if more people comes up with good apps they probadly get hired at jolla to atleast work on distance.
Excellent point, it'd crossed my mind to raise that at the time but it was deviating from what I'd previously raised & wanted to discuss.
To be fair, we don't yet know for sure that they won't have any sort of device program, but they better get moving on that real soon.
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2013-10-03
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Originally Posted by javispedro
Yes, some years ago in Brazil I have seen some public relations events where many Nokia smartphones were given to press people, actors, etc. Everybody but developers... In 2011 I've also the information (from some Nokians) that some Nokia N950 were in Brazil without use, by mistake...
I fully disagree. Remember that there was a separate, "non public" N950 device program that distributed way more N950s than all the "Community device programs" together. The first N950 that appeared in eBay was from this alternate program (different specs).
Of course, by now there are a lot of the "community" N950s on ebay. Shame on them.
Remember that the Nokia Lumia device program in 2011/2012 has sent 25,000 Lumia 800 & 710 for developers, not counting other Lumia developer programs in 2012 and 2013. It is way more than approx. 1,000 Nokia N9/N950 sent for MeeGo developers.
So, the Nokia N9/N950 developer programs were not a waste of resources, instead they should be increased, IMHO.
Originally Posted by javispedro
Many Sailfish developers are already working with the Sailfish SDK, without any device. Many will pay from their pockets to have a Sailfish smartphone. I prefer to pay to develop to a good mobile OS (Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish) than to have free smartphone to develop to a dumbed down mobile OS (Windows Phone, etc).
The only current source of native applications is the Maemo/MeeGo crowd! Which are so enthusiastic that are paying for the devices out of their pockets.
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Last edited by rcolistete; 2013-10-03 at 17:41.
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2013-10-03
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From twitter
"sail is set for jolla world where should we hold it?"
http://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/stat...354050/photo/1
hmmmmmm
"sail is set for jolla world where should we hold it?"
http://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/stat...354050/photo/1
hmmmmmm
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2013-10-04
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
I'm quite sure the absolute no's were higher than that in 2011, & ofc much higher as time went on into 2012/13, can't find the correct sources ATM.
Remember that the Nokia Lumia device program in 2011/2012 has sent 25,000 Lumia 800 & 710 for developers, not counting other Lumia developer programs in 2012 and 2013.
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Edit: Not much else worth mentioning. He has toured Europe talking to operators.
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