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#1221
Originally Posted by Ele-Mental View Post
I just dont understand how Nokia can put themselves in a position where their main differentiation now is hardware related. Their hardware has always been light-years behind the competition. If Samsung decides to go WP7 with even just a few devices, Nokia will be in a world of hurt.(Then they will finally know how their customers feel )
Ele-Mental, it really is elemental (I know, baaaad joke). Nokia isn't going WP7. WP7 is dead. Nokia is going WP. Samsung already have WP7 phones.
 
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So how about a poll.. I set one up here.. Try to pass it around if you can so we get accurate counts.

http://areyouproud.com/


And no cheating i don't want to have to implement email verification..
 

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There is only one thing that REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY MAKE ME AFRAID atm!!!

Its bigger than Meego!!

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO QT :-O Nokia did buy it from Trolltech 2008 now Microsoft get access to this in the long run Nokia could infact go MicroNoki!!!

That is Microsoft will own Qt :-( HELL I hope some OSS software buys Qt RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont call me troll fact is those who has called me troll bbefore was wrong :-( And I am not glad saying theyr were wrong :-(

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#1224
Originally Posted by Rugoz View Post
Instead of cooperating with every looser out there (symbian foundation, intel, whatever) they should just have cleaned their house, hiring some good engineers and make maemo 6.
Managers this time first.
 

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Yea QT's future worries me too.
 
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Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
Managers this time first.
Dont forget good PR people as well.
 
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#1227
Originally Posted by GeraldKo View Post
Can anyone read the Nokia PR with a straight face?

I see Elop saying that Meego is now tasked with "future disruption in the mobile ecosystem.” I have to ask, don't the people at Nokia know that Disruptive Technologies are supposed to disrupt the market and competitors, not your own company? It seems Nokia continually proves its expertise in Self-Disruptive Smartphone Technology.

Then I see that when you go to Nokia.com, you're greeted with with a screen-wide banner proclaiming, "Nokia + Microsoft. Here we go!" After the abandonment of Maemo, hooking up with Intel, then essentially dumping MeeGo, can anyone read this with a straight face and not think, "Nokia + Microsoft. Here we go again!"
Images of guitar riffs and Tawny Kitaen having her way with Coverdale's Jaguar enter my mind. Thank you.
 
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Originally Posted by Ele-Mental View Post
I just dont understand how Nokia can put themselves in a position where their main differentiation now is hardware related. Their hardware has always been light-years behind the competition. If Samsung decides to go WP7 with even just a few devices, Nokia will be in a world of hurt.(Then they will finally know how their customers feel )

Edit: I know Samsung has WP7 models, but its far from what they are capable of. Im talkin, if they release serious WP7 devices.
Samsung doesn't really have a dedicated department for WP7, they just hardware platforms that already use android and replace that by WP& adding the WP7 specific buttons layout. The WP7 hardware is exactly the same as the android hardware.
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
There is only one thing that REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY MAKE ME AFRAID atm!!!

Its bigger than Meego!!

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO QT :-O Nokia did buy it from Trolltech 2008 now Microsoft get access to this in the long run Nokia could infact go MicroNoki!!!

That is Microsoft will own Qt :-( HELL I hope some OSS software buys Qt RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont call me troll fact is those who has called me troll bbefore was wrong :-( And I am not glad saying theyr were wrong :-(
It's open source under the GPL3, so if truly threatened, it could be forked by the QT community, like Openoffice. The problem is that QT would lose it's corporate sponsorship, so development won't likely be as active. But I don't think QT or KDE are at any risk at all from all of this.
 
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#1230
Microsoft's puppet goverment...

http://www.appleoutsider.com/2011/02/11/nokia/

Microsoft Buys Nokia for $0B

I was still at Apple when Nokia announced it was turning its stake in Symbian into full ownership. The iPhone was days away from being a year old. I emailed my team and said something to the effect of “We’ve won, and our competitors know it.”

Nokia has been running scared for years. The Symbian buyout was an acknowledgement that making truly great next-generation mobile products would be impossible without control over both hardware and software. That was hundreds of millions of dollars and nearly three years ago. It just wasn’t happening at Nokia, and if it hasn’t happened by now, then it wasn’t going to anytime soon. But enough about Nokia, because the “Nokia” we knew is a thing of the past. Today’s news is all about Microsoft.

Microsoft’s partners, notably HP and Dell, are running away as quickly as possible. Windows Phone 7 shows promise, but I believe Microsoft understands the same thing Nokia did, from the other side: it has software, but no hardware. In Nokia, Microsoft now has an established, experienced, recognized OEM with one of its own men at the helm.

I don’t think any of us properly appreciate what has happened here just yet.

Rumors of this “partnership” started flying within hours of Stephen Elop’s move being announced — suggesting even that Nokia’s board had explicitly approved the idea in the process of hiring him. Within three months, the rumors were in full force among tech blogs and media. If you go back a bit further, you’ll find additional rumors that Microsoft was trying to outright take Nokia over.

So in the span of one year, we have Microsoft failing to acquire Nokia, “losing” a top executive, and now having one of the most recognizable mobile hardware vendors in the world under its thumb. There’s no question in my mind that the next generation of flagship Windows Phones will come from Nokia, and for that, Microsoft will have unprecedented influence over the hardware that runs its software. We like to think of Steve Ballmer throwing chairs when his executives leave. I think this time he told Elop, “Fine. Go get me some hardware I can own.” Elop did.

But what will they do with it? Microsoft has had some success in hardware, notably in its Xbox division—but not so much in making it profitable. Nokia’s problems, according to Elop, are with focus and execution—two things I wouldn’t say Microsoft is known for. (The length of Elop’s memo is an irony in and of itself, to that end.) All in all, this was one of very few choices Nokia could have made; it’s certainly better than staying the course, which is what I feared we would hear today. For Microsoft, though, it’s huge.

I have absolutely no qualms about calling this new regime at Nokia a puppet government. This is far and away the most brilliant move of Ballmer’s tenure. Whether it pays off is another question entirely.

[UPDATE: Former Microsoft exec Chris Weber has just been named President of Nokia Inc. (US). This is a coup, folks.]
 

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