No, but the whole point of *THIS* thread is that there's a leak that says the N900 will be a phone, not just a device with GSM data. Really, read the first post in the thread, and the article it links to.

I thought there was no point to this thread any more

- I kid, I kid - no really, I do.

Says who?

Um, nowhere is the word "phone" mentioned in the title, or even in the article the first post linked to.
(Perhaps your post was merged into this thread and we are experiencing the problems mentioned earlier that result with thread editing? )

Just because it has GSM radios does not make it a traditional voice phone.

and...

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding...
We may have a winner!

Average Revenue Per Unit is the magic metric in the cell phone industry... The way Nokia may be doing it could make everybody a winner if it succeeds, and not cause to much damage if it doesn't.

In any event success or failure will not be measured against any other device or be affected by decisions that any particular operators Board of Directors/executives may make.

Let someone else be the iPhone/Blackberry/Pre killer. Hell, let them all churn market share back and forth. Meanwhile the Fightin' Fish o' Finland whittles away at a market that required less investment from it to enter than it did for the other three.

In the end, the return on that investment is what determines the winners and the losers.

...and the bit about emergency calls in the SDK is a ruse? Or something to do with VoIP?

ring-ring, not ding.

Banana phone!

the mc-article says something about "All SMS and IMs accessible from one view". i might be wrong technically, but i always thought text messages was something a phone would do. (of course it's something that any device with a SIM-card.... but who would send text messages to a phone number he couldn't also call?)

Well... SMS *can* be sent over the web, and even from SQL Server (I used the latter to send production defect alerts to managers' cell phones) if routed through an SMS gateway.

.... and a lot of ppl send text messages via email. - i thought that part of the mc-article referred to incoming text messages... oh well.

And my brother can make a phone call from his pick-up truck but that service doesn't make it a traditional cell phone.

I am not saying the n900 won't have cell phone connectivity, and I am not saying that you won't be able to make emergency calls if needed (For all I know there may be some FCC requirement that all devices that use a Subscriber Identity Module be able to make "Emergency Phone Calls" when the SIM is not present.), I am also not saying that 3rd party developers will not produce dialers, voice or other.

What I am saying is that IMHO, Nokia or the service provider will not be promoting or marketing those capabilities in this device.

I also stand by my statement that after following this fellows advice...

I still don't see the word phone mentioned.

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Now to expand on my belief that Nokia will not be promoting or marketing the full capabilities in this device. I also believe they hope that our community will. They have certainly done a lot lately to help provide the environment for this.
So, much like the original Internet tablet that allowed us to home grow our own web browser over cell or WiFi experience, we will now be presented with a device that will allow us to home grow our own cell phone experience...
I know I could use a portable device that allows me to receive, view, annotate, re-send, or file faxes unattended for instance.

You can keep calling this thing a phone but I'm thinkin' there's a reason that the word phone is not mentioned in the "leak".

YoDude: Actually the original article says, "Cellular voice or VOIP both supported," (#8 under "Some of the mentioned software features," right under the fact that SMS will be supported,) so I think we have to start with the fact that the Rover "leak," at least, says there'll be voice out of the box.