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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I believe it could be just a tiny bit smaller and work well as both. But of course I could use such a thing and have to admit I was wrong afterward...



You did what? To who? There's another rat at Nokia???
But then it competes with Nokia's other offerings in the n series space, or the upcoming s60 touch (first of which seems to be the 5800, which I understand it, is not an n series). Since those devices typically sell for quite a bit more, perhaps that wouldn't seem like the best move that Nokia could make for Nokia, if you know what I mean.
 
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Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
But then it competes with Nokia's other offerings in the n series space, or the upcoming s60 touch (first of which seems to be the 5800, which I understand it, is not an n series). Since those devices typically sell for quite a bit more, perhaps that wouldn't seem like the best move that Nokia could make for Nokia, if you know what I mean.
Yes and no. It doesn't compete directly with any S40 or S60 devices because the OS is different enough to create a unique experience.

And price has not been published for any future model(s), so it remains to be seen how they stack up against other N-series products, SIM or no SIM.

Finally, Nokia's OS future is at an interesting crossroads right now. We have maemo. We bought trolltech. We released Symbian to the open source gods. Anything can happen from here.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Yes and no. It doesn't compete directly with any S40 or S60 devices because the OS is different enough to create a unique experience.

And price has not been published for any future model(s), so it remains to be seen how they stack up against other N-series products, SIM or no SIM.

Finally, Nokia's OS future is at an interesting crossroads right now. We have maemo. We bought trolltech. We released Symbian to the open source gods. Anything can happen from here.
Hmmmm. HMMM I say. Well, looking back, even to relatively recent history, say the n95 or n96; both of them debuted at a higher price than the n810 was first offered at. Are you perhaps insinuating that the next tablet will maybe be a bit more expensive?

In some cases, the price difference can be fairly significant, e.g. I think the n95-3 is currently close to $200 more than the n810 (feel free to correct my numbers). I'm struggling to believe that people would pay that much of a premium if the capabilities of the device were the same..

And indeed, now, or in the very near future, both of the OSs in question (maemo and s60) will be open source. Product convergence? I freely admit that I am not at all familiar with the inner workings of either OS, as in how different the experience is for the developer. I'm just sayin.
 
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Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
Are you perhaps insinuating that the next tablet will maybe be a bit more expensive?
No. But look at the N810-- offered for around $400 USD at first. At the same time I could buy some N-series phones for close to that... so not necessarily so big a difference.

I truly have no idea what if any product convergence between S60 and maemo could take place. Probably none. Maybe both become parts of the groundwork for an entirely new OS someday (note: that is entirely my speculation and I have no knowledge of any such plans or rumors).
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
No. But look at the N810-- offered for around $400 USD at first. At the same time I could buy some N-series phones for close to that... so not necessarily so big a difference.
The N810 debuted at $479 (the N800 was $399 and the 770 was $359)

Oh, and it's Maemo, damnit.
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
The N810 debuted at $479 (the N800 was $399 and the 770 was $359)

Oh, and it's Maemo, damnit.
The n96 debuts at $895 (without contract of course). The n95-3 at $699.
 
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Originally Posted by iamNarada View Post
The n96 debuts at $895 (without contract of course). The n95-3 at $699.
Those are not the only Nseries devices. And who pays list?
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We released Symbian to the open source gods. Anything can happen from here.
Where can we get a hold of this open-sourced Symbian OS and just how much of it is actually open-sourced?
 
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Originally Posted by Benson View Post
I was thinking of going with Boost, actually, but finally went with T-mo. The allure of EDGE caught up to me.

Oddly enough, there were, for a while, 3 "best plans" in the US, depending what you were after; T-Mo with unlimited data (tethering allowed) for $6 on top of a $30 voice plan, Sprint's SERO with blazing fast unlimited data, and tethering readily sneakable for $30, IIRC, (and a contract), and Boost, for next to nothing, no contract, and unlimited, but slow, data. And each of the three uses a different, incompatible technology. That, in a nutshell, is the reason a single integrated radio is bad. (Cost and size, of course, is why having three radios is bad.)

An empty slot, with modules available for various networks, is a clean solution that fixes everything. The only reason not to implement it is lack of a really suitable standard for the cards. (Hint to Nokia, start working on one!)
Does Boost let you use their handset to share the web access to the tablet? Does the Sprint Everything plan let you do that? I think I saw a thread float by about that... might need to seek it out.
 
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Where can we get a hold of this open-sourced Symbian OS and just how much of it is actually open-sourced?
Um... maybe it's best if I just link you to a wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS
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